Are the media biased

[mistaram]

You have probably either watched it read the news this weekend . Every paper and News Channels I've either watched it read has been full of the Extinction Rebellion blocking the printing presses by lying in the street Now there is a way to protest and I don't think that is the right way But a completely over the top reaction from the media accusing extreme left wing agitators from organising it .Well I always thought climate change was a concern for all political persuasion s or is that just at election times . Now Johnson is going to rush a bill through to protect the Newspapers making them "critical national infrastructure " few
Meanwhile at the same time there was a protest at Dover which you probably never read or saw on the news . At protest by the far right against migrants , This consisted of a number of far right groups some from banned groups the police said there were members from Britain First , Pie and Mash ( football hooligans )fomer Combat 18 and EDL members . They blocked the A20 with a sit in during off Dover docks . Leader Nigel March with his megaphone screaming " Take a knee for the brethren of this f**king country Wonder what PM is going to do about this

[Trickytreesreds]

You have probably either watched it read the news this weekend . Every paper and News Channels I've either watched it read has been full of the Extinction Rebellion blocking the printing presses by lying in the street Now there is a way to protest and I don't think that is the right way But a completely over the top reaction from the media accusing extreme left wing agitators from organising it .Well I always thought climate change was a concern for all political persuasion s or is that just at election times . Now Johnson is going to rush a bill through to protect the Newspapers making them "critical national infrastructure " few
Meanwhile at the same time there was a protest at Dover which you probably never read or saw on the news . At protest by the far right against migrants , This consisted of a number of far right groups some from banned groups the police said there were members from Britain First , Pie and Mash ( football hooligans )fomer Combat 18 and EDL members . They blocked the A20 with a sit in during off Dover docks . Leader Nigel March with his megaphone screaming " Take a knee for the brethren of this f**king country Wonder what PM is going to do about this

Interesting facts though, that the police were ready for it and came in force. They quite rightly made arrests and cleared the way.
Now contradict that with BLM rallies were they stood aside and let a mob do what it wants.
What did our PM do about that as well? Why are the police so particular as to how they respond to certain groups?

Take the recent Birmingham stabbings. Stop and search activates so many ethnics, yet the figures show why it is there.
So why are the police being scared to follow it through now?

Listen to this serving officer phoning in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVpN...EVOICEOFREASON

It works both ways.

[MadAmster]

Might it just be, Tricky, that the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Move in quickly on one lot and, depending on your own leanings, they are either doing the right thing or they are curtailing someone's right to peaceful protest.

Move in on the other side and you are being a racist. Don't do so and they are pandering to the loony left.

Basically, whatever they do, someone is going to be "offended".

Poor buggers can't win, can they? Or they could if they treated every protest the same. Leave em all be or arrest the bloody lot, regardless of race, gender, creed, religion or political leaning. That way nobody should complain.......... but they will.

[Trickytreesreds]

Might it just be, Tricky, that the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Move in quickly on one lot and, depending on your own leanings, they are either doing the right thing or they are curtailing someone's right to peaceful protest.

Move in on the other side and you are being a racist. Don't do so and they are pandering to the loony left.

Basically, whatever they do, someone is going to be "offended".

Poor buggers can't win, can they? Or they could if they treated every protest the same. Leave em all be or arrest the bloody lot, regardless of race, gender, creed, religion or political leaning. That way nobody should complain.......... but they will.

I actually agree Maddy. It doesn't help when politicians side with the mob either.
The police has to be as neutral and as fair as possible. But the current culture of "offended" stops this from happening.
What tends to happen, after they have been too lenient because of pressure. Is that they then go in heavy handed at the next protest.
When the right wing have a prtest, I guarentee the police will be out in force in full battle gear. When the left have one, it is softly softly, so as not to get labelled.
Personnally, if they cannot conduct a demo peacefully and within the law, then crack skulls with all of them.

[MadAmster]

I actually agree Maddy. It doesn't help when politicians side with the mob either.
The police has to be as neutral and as fair as possible. But the current culture of "offended" stops this from happening.
What tends to happen, after they have been too lenient because of pressure. Is that they then go in heavy handed at the next protest.
When the right wing have a prtest, I guarentee the police will be out in force in full battle gear. When the left have one, it is softly softly, so as not to get labelled.
Personnally, if they cannot conduct a demo peacefully and within the law, then crack skulls with all of them.

They should use just one test. Has the Law been broken? If so, they should take action. They can "have a word". They can issue an official warning, They can arrest and charge you. They cannot be heavy handed at you and then ignore me.

[Trickytreesreds]

They should use just one test. Has the Law been broken? If so, they should take action. They can "have a word". They can issue an official warning, They can arrest and charge you. They cannot be heavy handed at you and then ignore me.

As it should be. They should be impartial. Unfortunately not all police are. Some bend the rules and lie.
That is something to be weedled out. However, when the police are fearful to act, in case they get branded and politicians won't back them. It is hardly going to be a level playing field for everyone.

Noone need look no futher than the white underage girl abuse scandals. The police/Labour councillors/social services knew what was going on. Yet did nothing, so as not to upset an applecart.
That is outrageous and we seem to have learned nothing from it. Police are still not upholding the law in certain quarters. The press are as guilty as anyone in back them into a corner.

[ramAnag]

They should use just one test. Has the Law been broken? If so, they should take action. They can "have a word". They can issue an official warning, They can arrest and charge you. They cannot be heavy handed at you and then ignore me.

Is there not some sort of case for taking context into account? I don’t actually applaud or condone violence or disruption as means of protest, think it does much more harm than good.
There perhaps are times however when the cause should be taken into account eg...the illegal shooting and murder of black men in the U.S, the Grenfell Tower tragedy, the invasion of Iraq...where protest seems much more justified than appears to be the case when a bunch of maliciously motivated thugs take to the streets to ‘complain’ about desperate people arriving on our shores via rubber dinghy.

[MadAmster]

Is there not some sort of case for taking context into account? I don’t actually applaud or condone violence or disruption as means of protest, think it does much more harm than good.
There perhaps are times however when the cause should be taken into account eg...the illegal shooting and murder of black men in the U.S, the Grenfell Tower tragedy, the invasion of Iraq...where protest seems much more justified than appears to be the case when a bunch of maliciously motivated thugs take to the streets to ‘complain’ about desperate people arriving on our shores via rubber dinghy.

Context, yes. I am totally behind the PROTESTORS who take to the streets to protest unfair treatment. As long as they remain peaceful, the police should monitor from a distance, just in case. Once any rioting, looting, pillaging etc starts then move in with the riot police and sweep the rioters up. But only the rioters. Those still in protest mode sould be left alone.

At a meeting in Sheffield last weekend ridiculing the CV-19 situation police tried to arrest a man. The man was immediately surrounded by other protestors so the police couldn't get to him. He had simply been standing there listening but is a known issuer of online tirades against the lockdown, on the (lack of) effect of the virus currently, against mask wearing etc.

Later, they arrested Piers Corbyn for not wearing a mask in a shop he entered to use the toilets, organising an illegal meeting (carries a £10K fine like the one he plead guilty to in London as he HAD organised that one. He didn't organise Sheffield) and a 3rd charge of resisting arrest or similar. It seems he is targeted whenever he appears anywhere near a protest meeting.

[ramAnag]

You have probably either watched it read the news this weekend . Every paper and News Channels I've either watched it read has been full of the Extinction Rebellion blocking the printing presses by lying in the street Now there is a way to protest and I don't think that is the right way But a completely over the top reaction from the media accusing extreme left wing agitators from organising it .Well I always thought climate change was a concern for all political persuasion s or is that just at election times . Now Johnson is going to rush a bill through to protect the Newspapers making them "critical national infrastructure " few
Meanwhile at the same time there was a protest at Dover which you probably never read or saw on the news . At protest by the far right against migrants , This consisted of a number of far right groups some from banned groups the police said there were members from Britain First , Pie and Mash ( football hooligans )fomer Combat 18 and EDL members . They blocked the A20 with a sit in during off Dover docks . Leader Nigel March with his megaphone screaming " Take a knee for the brethren of this f**king country Wonder what PM is going to do about this

Now look what you’ve gone and done, mista.

In answer to the question...yes the media are biased. The Guardian and the Mirror slightly towards the Left. The Times, Telegraph, Sun, Mail and Express to varying degrees towards the Right. The TV argument has been done to death elsewhere and I don’t want to kick start Capt. YouTube so I’ll pass beyond that.

Agree with you about ‘Extinction Rebellion’. Well intentioned but badly advised imo. I mostly agree with their aims but I think their methods are often flawed and only antagonise people.

I didn’t know anything about the far right imbeciles at Dover...which maybe tells it’s own story.

[Andy_Faber]

Now look what you’ve gone and done, mista.

In answer to the question...yes the media are biased. The Guardian and the Mirror slightly towards the Left. The Times, Telegraph, Sun, Mail and Express to varying degrees towards the Right. The TV argument has been done to death elsewhere and I don’t want to kick start Capt. YouTube so I’ll pass beyond that.

Agree with you about ‘Extinction Rebellion’. Well intentioned but badly advised imo. I mostly agree with their aims but I think their methods are often flawed and only antagonise people.

I didn’t know anything about the far right imbeciles at Dover...which maybe tells it’s own story.

Liking the Captain Youtube thing, that's definitely my lol of the day

There were 'far right' (not sure where this compulsary use of 'far' has come from) imbeciles at Dover, but there were left-leaning protestors there in equal number from what I've seen (although I'll accept, not being such clots). That's you being 'controlled' by the media micro-giant that is mistaram