Just to close this out SCM in case you wasn't aware. This message board used to be called The Tap Room and was renamed Duke's Bar after the untimely death of Redduke who used to fulfill the role of bartender. Like a tap room it's open to discussions on all topics (with the appropriate O/T for non football/RUFC related threads) and despite perpetual debate about whether to strictly limit it to football, when that has been tried in the past it has failed miserably due to lack of traffic. There's only so much than can be discussed about football before it becomes boring and repetitive (see any post by Gru for an example of this).