Watford away 21/10/20

[seventwo]

Which team will play Mr Jekyll or Mr Hyde?
How many games does TM get to find his new best team and tactics?
He's never yet decided nor found his team or tactics.

[Saxo1man41]

Which team will play Mr Jekyll or Mr Hyde?
How many games does TM get to find his new best team and tactics?
He's never yet decided nor found his team or tactics.

Very harsh to judge TM V Forest.. We had many key players missing.

[AucklandRover]

Saxo, Seventwo is not impartial on this issue.
He is looking for Mowbray to fulfil his prediction of failure for him.
As I have always said, trying to suggest that the pattern and result of every individual game is down to the manager and the manager alone is simply nonsense.
Take this game. Johnson has been possibly our most consistent positive influence this season.
Here, he was pretty anonymous.
How is that Mowbray's fault?
Armstrong had one of those games where he never looked like making anything happen. I would say about one in three of his matches with us have been like that. In the other two-thirds, he has often looked top-notch. Mowbray's influence?
Dolan looked slightly lost. It was going to happen. He will probably now go to the bench. That's fine. It was well worth trying again after his first three games, but he still has a lot to learn.
Because the midfield was mainly engaged in a tight semi-defensive struggle, Lenihan reverted to pumping long balls over the top. We know Mowbray doesn't WANT him to do that because he has said so!
We had Holtby, Rothwell, Travis, Dack, Williams, Rankin-Costello and Bennett unavailable - not to mention three or four of our best U-23s - while four new players have arrived in the last week and couldn't go straight in. Might not those be factors which influenced the outcome?
And, of course, we lost to a deflection. That might have happened at the other end, and we'd have sneaked an undeserved win. It's called "football".
Surely, it's a bit bloody early to start on the critical moaning and the predictions of doom!

[robinrover]

One thing I expect is changes for this game.
Douglas more than likely at left back and possibly trybull taking Evans spot.
Is Holtby back or still taking time out with his family?

[seventwo]

Ok, I admit it, I completely lost it when I looked at Sky and Google and saw number 31 Elliott Bennett at centre forward.
If he wasn't recovering from surgery I'd believe it too!!

[AucklandRover]

I know that there's no such thing as a good defeat, but that result is a farce.
Watford - just down from the PL - were wasting time from 15 minutes onwards.
We completely outplayed them and lost 1-3.
Elliott is a star in the making. His combination with Nyambe was superb. I was very impressed with Trybull's passing in his time on the field too. Holtby: 9/10.
A missed penalty; an own goal; Foster in brilliant form; 19 attempts on goal.
In a weird way, I don't feel too down about it. How many times in a season would you play that well and lose?
TM will be biting his lip about the referee, but I don't have to. He was an embarrassment to his profession.
Apart from the mystifying absence of the red card when Armstrong was brought down, he missed Foster's double-fisted punch to Johnson's head. Then he booked a player who had just come on, but failed to book him again for a much worse foul, because he realised he would have to send him off!
A final point. Why on earth did Armstrong try to chip Foster? He just had to push the ball past him and tap it into an empty net.

[Saxo1man41]

I know that there's no such thing as a good defeat, but that result is a farce.
Watford - just down from the PL - were wasting time from 15 minutes onwards.
We completely outplayed them and lost 1-3.
Elliott is a star in the making. His combination with Nyambe was superb. I was very impressed with Trybull's passing in his time on the field too. Holtby: 9/10.
A missed penalty; an own goal; Foster in brilliant form; 19 attempts on goal.
In a weird way, I don't feel too down about it. How many times in a season would you play that well and lose?
TM will be biting his lip about the referee, but I don't have to. He was an embarrassment to his profession.
Apart from the mystifying absence of the red card when Armstrong was brought down, he missed Foster's double-fisted punch to Johnson's head. Then he booked a player who had just come on, but failed to book him again for a much worse foul, because he realised he would have to send him off!
A final point. Why on earth did Armstrong try to chip Foster? He just had to push the ball past him and tap it into an empty net.

Great performance in defeat, but Arma definitely out of form for us.

Seventwo.. cmon, that was an impressive display despite defeat..

[champs95]

I know that there's no such thing as a good defeat, but that result is a farce.
Watford - just down from the PL - were wasting time from 15 minutes onwards.
We completely outplayed them and lost 1-3.
Elliott is a star in the making. His combination with Nyambe was superb. I was very impressed with Trybull's passing in his time on the field too. Holtby: 9/10.
A missed penalty; an own goal; Foster in brilliant form; 19 attempts on goal.
In a weird way, I don't feel too down about it. How many times in a season would you play that well and lose?
TM will be biting his lip about the referee, but I don't have to. He was an embarrassment to his profession.
Apart from the mystifying absence of the red card when Armstrong was brought down, he missed Foster's double-fisted punch to Johnson's head. Then he booked a player who had just come on, but failed to book him again for a much worse foul, because he realised he would have to send him off!
A final point. Why on earth did Armstrong try to chip Foster? He just had to push the ball past him and tap it into an empty net.

they have now lost 3 football matches. 2 of which they played well and lost. But conceded 6 goals. So last night was not a one off. It has already happened. If you take away playing Wycombe who have not won a game, shouldn't be in the division and wouldn't be unless Covid wasn't here. And a woeful Derby side who have lost to everyone, they have really struggled. Unable to break down an average Cardiff and Forest side. Lost to First, lost to Bournemouth despite playing well still conceded 3.
Good or even half decent sides don't go and play well but concede 3 goals. Not once but TWICE in the first few weeks.

Other than playing 2 very very poor sides, Rovers have been pretty ****e this season.
A long list of excuses I can see from last night.
Where the defensive mistakes and keeper mistakes down to luck? And us missing a pen, and a simple one on one all down to luck? An own goal? A shaky defence. I am shocked we only conceded 3, they looked like they'd score every time they where in our box.

I think they will find ways of losing games. Play well, lose. Play poorly, lose. There will always be an excuse.

They where missing more first team players than us last night. So injuries cant be used an the excuse. Everyone gets them.

[champs95]

Foster last night showed the benefit of addressing you need a decent solid experienced keeper. Get that sorted, and build from there. 3 season in the Champ, we are still as poor at the back as we always have been.
People will always say its the defence and keeper. For me that is still an issue. But it ALL stems from midfield. Our Midfield simply isn't good enough. Whichever 3 you pick. Because the system doesn't work with a 3. We are weak, we conceded goals for fun and 3 years in, no improvements have been made.

My god Coventry will have to be one poor side for Rovers to go and get a win. 1 goal in 3 games, and we are conceding such poor goals. Missing great chances, and a forward who blows hot and cold massively. We may aswell of played with 10 men last night.

This will be the final season Mowbray is here. If we can't push on a bit now, then what is the point? He has been well supported in the window. We havent sold anyone of note for 3 years now, and he has been plenty of money to improve us. We do have better players, but we are simply not improving. Next week it will be another load of excuses. Bad luck, injuries, form, the pitch, the ref.

[Saxo1man41]

According to the Burnley fans, it's 'Mowbray out' all over the LET site..

I'm not even gonna look..