O/T:- Government has utterly failed us!!!

[Warnocks Legends]

I am absolutely gutted, upset and frustrated we are going into lockdown again. I work as a Manager in Retail and my team have tirelessly grafted to keep the store open and economy going under constant pressure and abuse from the general public. Wearing masks whilst working all day and for what? Absolutely nothing!! Our government and so called specialist scientists have utterly failed us. They are going to drag this country into the 19th century, with untold damage to our economy, our mental health and job losses will be devastating and on a level never seen before. This is disastrous for the country and in particular our younger generation who will inherit and wasteland of devastation and destruction!!!

[upthemaggies]

I am absolutely gutted, upset and frustrated we are going into lockdown again. I work as a Manager in Retail and my team have tirelessly grafted to keep the store open and economy going under constant pressure and abuse from the general public. Wearing masks whilst working all day and for what? Absolutely nothing!! Our government and so called specialist scientists have utterly failed us. They are going to drag this country into the 19th century, with untold damage to our economy, our mental health and job losses will be devastating and on a level never seen before. This is disastrous for the country and in particular our younger generation who will inherit and wasteland of devastation and destruction!!!

The media and opposition have been a complete waste of space as well.

[TheBlackHorse]

... it's not the Gov, it's the mindless critters who breath over each other when they crowd into city centres .... they're too thick to care about anyone else ...

[jackal2]

Humanity has been presented with a problem by Mother Nature (or was it China?) that we cannot fully resolve, and confronted by that increasing feeling of powerlessness, everyone is blaming everyone. As a species we're somewhere within the five stages of grief, the last of which is acceptance.

[jackal2]

Humanity has been presented with a problem by Mother Nature (or was it China?) that we cannot fully resolve, and confronted by that increasing feeling of powerlessness, everyone is blaming everyone. As a species we're somewhere within the five stages of grief, the last of which is acceptance.

Sorry, I forgot one. There's an unofficial sixth stage of grief: Being a Notts County fan.

If you can handle that, you can handle anything!

[irishpete]

I am absolutely gutted, upset and frustrated we are going into lockdown again. I work as a Manager in Retail and my team have tirelessly grafted to keep the store open and economy going under constant pressure and abuse from the general public. Wearing masks whilst working all day and for what? Absolutely nothing!! Our government and so called specialist scientists have utterly failed us. They are going to drag this country into the 19th century, with untold damage to our economy, our mental health and job losses will be devastating and on a level never seen before. This is disastrous for the country and in particular our younger generation who will inherit and wasteland of devastation and destruction!!!

It's not the Government, it's the same over here, dipsticks that think they know better than the experts on it. They have tried to keep things ticking over due to pressure from all corners but if people can't follow basic rules, this is what happens. You have already said about the abuse you have taken. If it carried on without lockdown the health system will go into meltdown & there will be no economy as most will be sick with it.
It's a one off do as we are advised, don't go abroad on holiday after lockdown & we will get through this quicker.
I'm currently on a job in covid & some of the stories I've heard would make your blood boil due to pure ignorance

[BigFatPie]

FFS go to work, but you can’t do anything that’s fun.

[upthemaggies]

Has the government broken the law?

The Cambridge Law Faculty

'Government by decree - Covid-19 and the Constitution': Lord Sumption

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDv2gk8aa0

A written summary
https://www.legalcheek.com/2020/10/l...down-policies/

Lord Sumption wowed a virtual audience last night with a hard-hitting attack on the government’s coronavirus policies, accusing ministers of deliberately stoking up fear and acting with a “cavalier disregard for the limits of their legal powers”.

The former Supreme Court justice warned that British society was becoming “totalitarian” and argued that the government had no power to pass lockdown regulations under the Public Health Act.

Sumption has been a leading lockdown sceptic for some time but last night’s speech marked an escalation in his warnings of the dire consequences of “government by decree”.

Delivering an online lecture organised by Cambridge University, Sumption warned that “the British public has not even begun to understand the seriousness of what is happening to our country”.

But the 71-year-old doesn’t seem to be experiencing much tyranny himself. Introducing him, Cambridge don Sarah Worthington revealed that Sumption had recently been spotted “cycling through the vineyards in northern France” and was giving the talk from Milan via Zoom.

The silk took an hour off from living it up to warn that the government setting sweeping restrictions without the involvement of a “relatively supine House of Commons” was a democratic disaster. Sumption said:

“The sheer scale on which the government has sought to govern by decree, creating new criminal offences, sometimes several times a week on the mere say-so of ministers, is in constitutional terms truly breathtaking.”

Sumption’s legal argument was that lockdown laws are unlawful in their current form. He pointed to the famous case of Ex parte Simms, where the House of Lords held that “fundamental rights cannot be overridden by general or ambiguous words” in an act of parliament.

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The government has passed the main lockdown regulations under the Public Health Act 1984, which does contain a power for the government to make regulations to fight infectious diseases, but it is “couched in wholly general terms”. Relying on that act to authorise sweeping control over healthy people’s lives, Sumption said, is inconsistent with the principle of legality in Simms and so the regulations could be quashed on judicial review.

But his main theme was about the dangers of meekly accepting government by decree even with a national emergency to justify it. To cheers in the YouTube comments and on Twitter, Sumption declaimed:

“This is how freedom dies. When societies lose their liberty, it is not usually because some despot has crushed it under his boot. It is because people voluntarily surrendered their liberty out of fear of some external threat.”

And he said that the situation contains the “authentic ingredients of a totalitarian society” and “marks a move to a more authoritarian model of politics which will outlast the present crisis”.

[Elite_Pie]

This whole situation is definitely an utter sh!tstorm of the highest order, and even Einstein would have struggled to come up with the right answers all of the time. That still doesn't excuse a government that has repeatedly come up with the wrong answers. Or to be fair to them I suppose they have come up with the right answers..................... eventually.

When this government is no more, their epitaph should read 'too little too late'.

[magpie_mania]

The Govt has an awful lot to answer for. I believe that they have tried to balance the virus, economy etc but they seem to have not learned from the mistakes last time.

But they are not the only ones to blame - those who have totally disregarded the law / guidance have also played their part.