They don't want you to know this.

[Norder]

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I was happy to follow the lead of the medical experts, but their expert opinion and advice suddenly, almost overnight, was rubbished and overturned, and we were forced to wear them, for reasons I have yet to comprehend. And now another report by medical experts is being suppressed, no doubt because it confirms the original expert advice on face masks.

thats right - Sinkov...the last lockdown - all the regular culprits, WHO, Fauci, Whitty/Gov....facemasks dont protect against this Convid infection, which was right, as the...I think it was about 42 scientific medical papers written on the subject and posted on the Corona Virus thread attested to....Micro particles vs Nano particles etc etc, it says it on the box even !



but just as with the rest of this Sham....they keep ramming the propaganda - abusive levels of coaxing to force the belief, like locking you down without any sign of a symptom because a Test that can't detect or pinpoint a live virus tells it so - a test for a Virus that hasn't been isolated Or purified - yet they've still managed to find a Vaccine for ?...and in astoundingly quick sharp time.


fecking hilarious if it wasn't so emotionally sickening.




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[oldcolner]

There was clear evidence on face coverings in Czech Republic and Slovenia where mask wearing was mandatory at all times as their cases and death rates were very low. Slovakia pop 5m has 45000 cases and 150 deaths
Czech Republic pop 10m had 400 deaths and 25000 cases at the end of August but in the past month or so numbers have risen rapidly
Our numbers are 45000 deaths and 850,000 cases.

No one is going to say their face covering fully protects the wearer from the virus, but that’s not what they are for, they are to protect others from your coughs sneezes and bad breath lol. So you need others to wear coverings to protect you and vice versa. One benefit of You mask wearing is if someone coughs or sneezes in your face a proportion of the virus will not get into your body. If they wear one the numbers of viruses will be significantly lower.
The fewer viruses you get lowers the seriousness of the infection and death rate, so more will survive the infection.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Masks are just an excuse for our Cabal of Conservative and Unionist Cabinet Minister Cretins to dole out daft supply contracts to their mates...https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...-contracts/11/10/?fbclid=IwAR2oZyqPQjdt_vpn7rcjt1TRgYKo4Fdc0j7tweyo OHlzV8ydUPM54hTa9Wo#.X4_4J1Xwkeh.facebook

[oldcolner]

Masks are just an excuse for our Cabal of Conservative and Unionist Cabinet Minister Cretins to dole out daft supply contracts to their mates...https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...-contracts/11/10/?fbclid=IwAR2oZyqPQjdt_vpn7rcjt1TRgYKo4Fdc0j7tweyo OHlzV8ydUPM54hTa9Wo#.X4_4J1Xwkeh.facebook

The guidance is on face coverings which you can make yourself or buy and lots of entrepreneurs have made their own even. BFC have one.
Look like Garlick save lives lol

[sinkov]

Besides Norder showing the warning on the box that they don't protect against Covid, there were billboards in London showing adverts that claimed they did, the ASA instructed them to be taken down as they were misleading. But despite all the medical and scientific experts saying they are a waste of time, and indeed if not worn properly, which they can't be in 99.9% of cases, can actually help spread the virus, people still want to wear them.

Ah well, god alone knows why.

[oldcolner]

Besides Norder showing the warning on the box that they don't protect against Covid, there were billboards in London showing adverts that claimed they did, the ASA instructed them to be taken down as they were misleading. But despite all the medical and scientific experts saying they are a waste of time, and indeed if not worn properly, which they can't be in 99.9% of cases, can actually help spread the virus, people still want to wear them.

Ah well, god alone knows why.

Sinkov
That’s Some claim “All medical and scientific experts.”

Here’s one from China who says otherwise

Q What mistakes are other countries making?

A: The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren’t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact. Droplets play a very important role—you’ve got to wear a mask, because when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth. Many people have asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections. If they are wearing face masks, it can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...scientist-says

Given their control of the virus and of SARS and similar practices in many Asian countries before COVID it I think they know more about it than people in US and Europe who have no experience and done no studies.

[sinkov]

More suppression,

"A Nobel Prize-winning chemist and Stanford professor has been cancelled for wrongthink on coronavirus. Professor Michael Levitt, who won the Nobel prize for Chemistry in 2013, was due to be the keynote speaker in December at a virtual conference on his areas of special expertise – computational biology and biodesign. But the First International Biodesign Research Conference withdrew his invitation – according to Levitt because they had received ‘too many calls’ from other speakers ‘threatening to quit’ because of his views on Chinese coronavirus. He has long maintained that the threat is overblown and that ‘we’re going to be fine.’"

"... too many calls by other speakers threatening to quit if you were there. They all complained about your COVID claims”. Computational biology & biodesign are based on my work. Time to cancel them & me. New Dark Age Cometh. I had no intention to talk about COVID19; it is not the theme of the meeting. All my work until 26 Jan. 2020 has been non-COVID computational biology. I really do not what happened although some say this incident is great free publicity for them. Smart!"

[sinkov]

Sinkov
"That’s Some claim “All medical and scientific experts.”

Not really OC, I thought I covered that in Post 10,

"Face masks have been around a long time in medical and scientific establishments, I was sure that by early 2020 virtually everything that needed to be known about them and their uses was known, so like you 59, not being a medical expert, I listened carefully to what the experts said about them. There were about 100 daily televised press briefings over a period of 3 months covering April, May and June, I listened to what every medical expert had to say about keeping safe, not once in that lengthy period did any of them advise wearing face masks, not once. Just twice journos asked about them, once to Van Tamm, once to Harries, both of them clearly stated that they did not recommend wearing them, and these are two of the most eminent medical experts in the country."

But OK then I'll amend that claim, all the medical and scientific advice that I read and heard during the first wave of the pandemic, including from Dr Jenny Harries OBE, Deputy Chief Medical officer for England, from Professor Jonathan Van Tamm MBE, specialist in influenza, including its epidemiology, transmission, vaccinology, antiviral drugs and pandemic preparedness, from official Government, National Health Service, Public Health England and World Health Organisation publications, including the official Government advice to shops, restaurants, haidressers etc on re-opening on July 4th, all said the same thing. That masks offered no protection to the wearer, the evidence for protecting others was weak and not wearing them correctly, could be counter productive.

Not having any knowledge on this subject myself, I listened carefully to all the expert advice I could, from those individuals and organisations listed above. Were they all wrong ? Was I wrong and foolish to believe and trust them ? With respect OC, but what makes you think you can advise me on face coverings better than them ?

[oldcolner]

Sinkov
"That’s Some claim “All medical and scientific experts.”

Not really OC, I thought I covered that in Post 10,

"Face masks have been around a long time in medical and scientific establishments, I was sure that by early 2020 virtually everything that needed to be known about them and their uses was known, so like you 59, not being a medical expert, I listened carefully to what the experts said about them. There were about 100 daily televised press briefings over a period of 3 months covering April, May and June, I listened to what every medical expert had to say about keeping safe, not once in that lengthy period did any of them advise wearing face masks, not once. Just twice journos asked about them, once to Van Tamm, once to Harries, both of them clearly stated that they did not recommend wearing them, and these are two of the most eminent medical experts in the country."

But OK then I'll amend that claim, all the medical and scientific advice that I read and heard during the first wave of the pandemic, including from Dr Jenny Harries OBE, Deputy Chief Medical officer for England, from Professor Jonathan Van Tamm MBE, specialist in influenza, including its epidemiology, transmission, vaccinology, antiviral drugs and pandemic preparedness, from official Government, National Health Service, Public Health England and World Health Organisation publications, including the official Government advice to shops, restaurants, haidressers etc on re-opening on July 4th, all said the same thing. That masks offered no protection to the wearer, the evidence for protecting others was weak and not wearing them correctly, could be counter productive.

Not having any knowledge on this subject myself, I listened carefully to all the expert advice I could, from those individuals and organisations listed above. Were they all wrong ? Was I wrong and foolish to believe and trust them ? With respect OC, but what makes you think you can advise me on face coverings better than them ?

This is WHO guidance on what to wear when.
https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitst...79750/retrieve

Doctors want Evidence Based Medicine that means trials in matching groups in controlled conditions of large numbers of people. Of course evidence is weak as few Covid studies meet these criteria,
There is not good evidence for a lot of treatments such as for diseases few people suffer from or for old medicines as the cost of trials exceeds the likely value of sales. but that doesn’t mean they don’t work.

[sinkov]

" I dread government in the name of science. That is how tyrannies come in. In every age the men who want us under their thumb, if they have any sense, will put forward the particular pretension which the hopes and fears of that age render most potent. They 'cash in'. It has been magic, it has been Christianity. Now it will certainly be science. Perhaps the real scientists may not think much of the tyrants' 'science'-- they didn't think much of Hitler's racial theories or Stalin's biology. But they can be muzzled."

And indeed they, and we, are being muzzled. Incidentally that quote is C.S. Lewis writing in 1958. Very perceptive Mr. Lewis.