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Thread: This is what happens when restrictions are lifted covid19

  1. #11
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    SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT TO THINK!
    I'm scared.... 😢

    Sadly that's how it is now.

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsutdman View Post
    SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT TO THINK!
    I'm scared.... ��

    Sadly that's how it is now.
    Understand the irony of the post, just wish more (wherever they are, and whether they follow football or any sport) were able to act on the the sentiments expressed in Posts #7 & #8 in this thread.

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    At the risk or sounding "America centric" Covid accomplished what the chinese wanted it to do. Trump did not bow to the chinese and stood up against them bringing jobs back to the US and demanding more fair trade as well as stopping the intellectual and manufacturing trade secret theft they they've been doing for decades. It was working and the US economy was booming. He was the first world leader that stood up to the chinese and he was winning. The rest of the world was starting to pay attention and were also working on revised trade deals.

    I'm sure it's a coincidence that 9 months before the election the chinese "accidently" released an engineered bio weapon right before their largest holiday and send millions of infected communists around the world to "celebrate" with their families. The rest is history. They destroyed the world economy but most importantly they shut down Trump who was going to win an easy re election due to the strongest economy ever for the US.

    The guy's a reprehensible human but his policies have helped the free world stand up to the CCP. He's the first to do that since they gained world power. People vote with their wallets and he would have won in a landslide but for Covid. The election will not be called for several days since it's so close but you can rest assured that the democrat socialists will find truckloads of "missing votes" in Phillidelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, Charlotte, Milwaukee and Phoenix. Don't need to cheat country wide. Just 5-10 counties in the US will win you the election it's that close.

    Of course, the fact the virus killed a million or more people and shut down the world means nothing to the CCP. it's a small price to pay to ensure their world dominance plan will continue. You dead family members mean no more to them than the loss the loss of the slave laborers in Uygher that die by the thousands. Of course, none of the CCP rulers have died. I'm sure that's just coincidence as well.

    when the US goes full socialist there will be no one left to stop them. They will have full dominance over the world. You'll be worried about a lot more than football at that time.

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    when the cure is worse than the disease its time to think again.
    My personal situation, i had a good business working in the world of music festivals. I'm 48, and was hoping semi retirement in 10 years as things were going pretty well. Now, i haven't worked in 2020, and besides a few internet sales, we have no income. just prior to Covid we bought a house, and a new car, and now face having to lose everything. We waited patiently for this to pass, but on realizing there was an agenda to keep us in fear in perpetuity, we decided to invest what we had left in opening a shop in order to try and sell off the thousands of euros we had invested in useless stock. Today our regional govt has closed down all small business, and they are considering this state of affairs until possibly May next year! (big business can stay open, and there are no restrictions on movement for the public, so this is a direct punishment on small business!) So now we, and many many others like us are well and truly ****ed!

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    we are all f*ucked.

    Love the people that think because they have a government job and paid to sit home and do nothing or are on a pension that they are fine. I think it was one of your politicians that said "socialism works great until the money runs out". Never a truer statement. If you think shutting down the private sector and printing money changing the laws of economics then just do a little research on something called the Wiemar republic. Hell, you can even look into a club called Leeds United. Eventually the debts come due and even our ruling overlords can't make the economic issue go away.

    Better to die fighting that to meekly hide in the basement until the money runs out and we've lost all of our freedoms and control of our lives. We've all had some loved one die of this weapon but it's not going away and every month that goes by is a month we'll never get back. The damage to our school age kids will leave scars that will never go away. They will be as scarred as the WWII kids growing up in air raids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asturianblanco View Post
    when the cure is worse than the disease its time to think again.
    My personal situation, i had a good business working in the world of music festivals. I'm 48, and was hoping semi retirement in 10 years as things were going pretty well. Now, i haven't worked in 2020, and besides a few internet sales, we have no income. just prior to Covid we bought a house, and a new car, and now face having to lose everything. We waited patiently for this to pass, but on realizing there was an agenda to keep us in fear in perpetuity, we decided to invest what we had left in opening a shop in order to try and sell off the thousands of euros we had invested in useless stock. Today our regional govt has closed down all small business, and they are considering this state of affairs until possibly May next year! (big business can stay open, and there are no restrictions on movement for the public, so this is a direct punishment on small business!) So now we, and many many others like us are well and truly ****ed!
    Sorry to hear that Blanco. We had a fish and chip shop for 30 years and I know it's hard in business at any time let alone in these times. Hope you hang in there and come out of it as hard as it may sound.

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    Spaldy if you thought things were grim well now the ccp has a leader to govern the USA god help us. People here and everywhere are blaming governments for the handling of covid19 but they forget it was a government that let it loose on the world. You watch 12 months from now everyone would have forgotten about china and their world dominance will continue. I watch futuristic films and the way the worlds are portrayed and I'm thinking well good like to the next-gen. The way this virus was let out and the effect it has had on the world well only proves it will only take one looney to f it up completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asturianblanco View Post
    when the cure is worse than the disease its time to think again.
    My personal situation, i had a good business working in the world of music festivals. I'm 48, and was hoping semi retirement in 10 years as things were going pretty well. Now, i haven't worked in 2020, and besides a few internet sales, we have no income. just prior to Covid we bought a house, and a new car, and now face having to lose everything. We waited patiently for this to pass, but on realizing there was an agenda to keep us in fear in perpetuity, we decided to invest what we had left in opening a shop in order to try and sell off the thousands of euros we had invested in useless stock. Today our regional govt has closed down all small business, and they are considering this state of affairs until possibly May next year! (big business can stay open, and there are no restrictions on movement for the public, so this is a direct punishment on small business!) So now we, and many many others like us are well and truly ****ed!
    Sorry to hear this Asturian,hope things improve for you in the future.Im a pensioner ,so at least I don't have to worry about money problems now.. I have two sons who are also finding life tough due to this Covid mess. KTF mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asturianblanco View Post
    when the cure is worse than the disease its time to think again.
    My personal situation, i had a good business working in the world of music festivals. I'm 48, and was hoping semi retirement in 10 years as things were going pretty well. Now, i haven't worked in 2020, and besides a few internet sales, we have no income. just prior to Covid we bought a house, and a new car, and now face having to lose everything. We waited patiently for this to pass, but on realizing there was an agenda to keep us in fear in perpetuity, we decided to invest what we had left in opening a shop in order to try and sell off the thousands of euros we had invested in useless stock. Today our regional govt has closed down all small business, and they are considering this state of affairs until possibly May next year! (big business can stay open, and there are no restrictions on movement for the public, so this is a direct punishment on small business!) So now we, and many many others like us are well and truly ****ed!
    Had our disagreements (and might in the future!) but sorry to hear about the impact of the actions of "our" governments, they don't learn, they don't listen, and they most certainly don't act independently of what (at least in the UK) is known as the "fifth estate", the media (yes, my favourite hate), whether they operate as print media, broadcast operators, or the new scourge of intelligent and science-based evaluation, the "social media" outlets.

    Politicians may have made mistakes in the past, for sure, but they acted (more or less) in good faith as the saw it (Even Chamberlain was an "honourable man") and with due consideration of the impacts of their decisions. Now, they act because "the media" expect them to, a miniscule number of unelected, unrepresentative and in many cases completely anonymous individuals, demanding that our elected representatives "must do something". Why? Because any actions taken sell advertising space, nothing more, nothing less.

    The conspiracy theories may be right, we may have this virus because of action on behalf of a foreign government, but even if this is so, THEY DONT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DETERMINE HOW WE REACT!!!!!!!! WE DO (Or we should). Rational, science-base and proportionate action could and should have been able to address the issue, and we have more than adequate capacity, properly managed and suitably targeted, to meet and overcome just about ANY challenge. We haven't, and why? Because our elected officials have panicked, faced with demands from the media to "do something" rather than sit down, establish what information is available and if its not enough, gather more and only when you have a rational, proportionate response, based on credible and peer-reviewed science, do you actually do something (and if people die in the meantime, that's tough sh1t and precisely what every world leader involved in the depths of despair during WWII had to accept as the double-edged sword of leadership). Doing something for the sake of doing something is NOT what a leader does. We have very, very VERY few leaders.

    Rant over.

    I hope things improve BB, and that there is light at the end of the tunnel (and not a train coming in the opposite direction!). You're not alone in the situation you're in, believe me.

  10. #20
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    I'm guessing you mean the comparison being between USA & UJ? Whatever, I agree (again) !000%
    Yup but broader than that pretty much better than the whole of Europe.

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