OT Trump prematurely ejaculates

[Geoff Parkstone]

What sort of a voting system accommodates claiming of victory before counting has even started in some places, and then allows a candidate to go to court to stop the counting when he thinks he is ahead

[ramAnag]

Pity his father didn’t!

[MadAmster]

Got his excuses in quick just in case they are needed. They might be. They might not be.

He's been on about these postal votes just about all year. They are allowed. Everything posted on or before November 3rd is a valid ballot paper and should be counted. Those are the rules although they do seem to vary in some states.

At one point he wanted to stop the counting in some states as he was ahead and most of the votes still to be counted were postal votes and they go, apparently, historically, to the Democrat candidate. Arizona, he wanted to keep the count going there as he was behind but might catch up. Arizona counted postal ballots first rather than last.... as it was Arizona stayed with Biden ahead and he has won that state.

If Biden gets to the magic 270 electoral college votes, Trump has already said he'll go to the Supreme Court to get the result overturned if he loses, saying it's electoral fraud.

What it is is a mardarse blubbing cos he might lose the protection being President gives him from all the pending prosecutions.... of course he'll be screaming and kicking all the way to the Supreme Court. Prat!! He knew the rules long ago and should abide by them.

Joe will be abiden by the result

[AdiSalisbury]

Come on guys, shouldn't we be a bit more respectful of other cultures and their democratic processes?

[swaledale]

What sort of a voting system accommodates claiming of victory before counting has even started in some places, and then allows a candidate to go to court to stop the counting when he thinks he is ahead

Not even the American system accommodates that. nor does it "allow" a candidate to go to court. Trump has habitually broken all conventions and norms, but as the media and even social media such as twitter and fakebook have made clear, what he says has no standing. In any democracy a politician can say what he or she wants to say, doesn't mean its true.

The legal challenge part is more complicated , obviously if there is proof of say fraudulent voting or unlawful processes etc. then in any system a legal challenge is possible. it has happened in the Uk, but at local level, when there was a case whereby there was widespread fraud involving postal votes, relatives and friends of a councillor or councillors had basically completed multiple ballot papers in other peoples names and sent them in.

In the US the supreme court is the final court of appeal in the US and has discretion over which cases it should hear, largely relating to challenges to cases heard in lower courts on points of federal law and the constitution.

So a lot of action will happen initially at state-level courts – the election has prompted a spate of new cases in the hotly contested battleground state of Pennsylvania, including two due to be heard later on Wednesday, generally about counting late postal votes and the like - Trump has tried to prevent the counting of postal votes.

However, unless the final voting is basically neck and neck as it was when Bush won from Al Gore, then no legal action will actually alter the result. Mind you thats not going to stop trump being an extremely sore loser if he does actually lose and saying some pretty outrageous things.

For me the stench here is those in the Republican party who have done nothing to stop this or repudiate trumps words and deeds, simply because they want power at all costs.

[GUNTERYY36]

Not even the American system accommodates that. nor does it "allow" a candidate to go to court. Trump has habitually broken all conventions and norms, but as the media and even social media such as twitter and fakebook have made clear, what he says has no standing. In any democracy a politician can say what he or she wants to say, doesn't mean its true.

The legal challenge part is more complicated , obviously if there is proof of say fraudulent voting or unlawful processes etc. then in any system a legal challenge is possible. it has happened in the Uk, but at local level, when there was a case whereby there was widespread fraud involving postal votes, relatives and friends of a councillor or councillors had basically completed multiple ballot papers in other peoples names and sent them in.

In the US the supreme court is the final court of appeal in the US and has discretion over which cases it should hear, largely relating to challenges to cases heard in lower courts on points of federal law and the constitution.

So a lot of action will happen initially at state-level courts – the election has prompted a spate of new cases in the hotly contested battleground state of Pennsylvania, including two due to be heard later on Wednesday, generally about counting late postal votes and the like - Trump has tried to prevent the counting of postal votes.

However, unless the final voting is basically neck and neck as it was when Bush won from Al Gore, then no legal action will actually alter the result. Mind you thats not going to stop trump being an extremely sore loser if he does actually lose and saying some pretty outrageous things.

For me the stench here is those in the Republican party who have done nothing to stop this or repudiate trumps words and deeds, simply because they want power at all costs.

Trump has every right to be a 'sore loser'. After a 3-year long Russia hoax, daily demonisation by the media, an impeachment for making a phone call and, worst of all, being replaced in the White House by a feeble-minded, staunchly anti-black racist, he must feel politics isn't worth the effort. Trojan Horse Joe can now get on with bribing foreign leaders and bragging about it on TV.

[MadAmster]

Trump has every right to be a 'sore loser'. After a 3-year long Russia hoax, daily demonisation by the media, an impeachment for making a phone call and, worst of all, being replaced in the White House by a feeble-minded, staunchly anti-black racist, he must feel politics isn't worth the effort. Trojan Horse Joe can now get on with bribing foreign leaders and bragging about it on TV.

In excess of 20,000 lies, helps the billionaires, multi-millionaires and corporations with tax cuts but not the people. Sets up Covid funds to help small businesses and big business grabs the aid, cocks up the Covid reaction and suggests very dangerous things as possible "treatments", sucks up to Russia, North Korea, Says tariffs are hurting China, costing them millions when the tariffs are simply added to the price of goods in the shops and it's the American consumer who is paying...... the man doesn't seem to even know words like sympathy and empathy, never mind what they mean or actually show either.

[GUNTERYY36]

In excess of 20,000 lies, helps the billionaires, multi-millionaires and corporations with tax cuts but not the people. Sets up Covid funds to help small businesses and big business grabs the aid, cocks up the Covid reaction and suggests very dangerous things as possible "treatments", sucks up to Russia, North Korea, Says tariffs are hurting China, costing them millions when the tariffs are simply added to the price of goods in the shops and it's the American consumer who is paying...... the man doesn't seem to even know words like sympathy and empathy, never mind what they mean or actually show either.

Have you actually counted the 'lies', MadAmster? If he's mis-spoken, as they say, on 20,000 occasions then compared to 'politicians', I'd say that number is not bad going. CNN lie about Trump on a daily basis but apart from Fox no other news network calls them out on it.

[ramAnag]

Have you actually counted the 'lies', MadAmster? If he's mis-spoken, as they say, on 20,000 occasions then compared to 'politicians', I'd say that number is not bad going. CNN lie about Trump on a daily basis but apart from Fox no other news network calls them out on it.

Anyone who attempts to hold up Fox News as the arbiter of truth and honesty and defend Trump’s ‘mis-speaks’ has already lost the argument.
Stick to football Gunteryy, you’ve got the upper hand on that one...for now.

[swaledale]

Trump has every right to be a 'sore loser'. After a 3-year long Russia hoax, daily demonisation by the media, an impeachment for making a phone call and, worst of all, being replaced in the White House by a feeble-minded, staunchly anti-black racist, he must feel politics isn't worth the effort. Trojan Horse Joe can now get on with bribing foreign leaders and bragging about it on TV.

And thick ****s like you who believe this bull**** are responsible for the state of the world today. Ah well the jokes on you boy!