Is Biden in?
If he is, will Boris still be able to get our chlorine/faeces soaked chicken or will he need to go else where?
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Is Biden in?
If he is, will Boris still be able to get our chlorine/faeces soaked chicken or will he need to go else where?
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Looks likely joe is in, good news apparently he’s going to sort out all of the USA problems. Some people have said couldn’t he have done that since he was elected in 1972 to the senate.
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It's all gone a bit banana republic
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Apparently there’s been a load of mail in ballots because of COVID that are all for Joe absolutely nothing strange about that.
There’s such stringent restrictions over here it would be impossible to vote in person.
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That was in Michigan, his vote went up by about 128000, and Trump's stayed the same. Somebody must have bought a photocopier.Originally Posted by Basingstokered
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Don't worry here is Rudy Giuliani to get to the bottom of it.
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An American guy on another forum I go on posted a fairly lengthy piece on this (it was in response to another post).........
Here's a website that provides links to every state,
https://electproject.github.io/Early...20G/index.html
where you can see all the early voting statistics including ballots requested by political party (where that is recorded). You can see the requests and the returns. There is nothing nefarious about any of this. It is open and transparent, run by professionals who are really concerned with getting it correct. Don't insult them.
If you look at the PA numbers in the link I posted, Ds requested ~1.16 million more mail-in ballots and returned ~1.05 million more. Applying those 95:5 and 90:10 ratios above (which actually gives the Rs more votes from the Ds than the Ds get from the Rs) that's just over 1 million more votes expected to be counted for Biden than for Trump WHEN MAIL-IN VOTES ARE COUNTED. In PA those mail-in votes cannot be counted until election day, and some counties weren't going to start until Wednesday. So a +500k Trump lead based on votes cast on election day getting overtaken by 1 million extra mail-in votes actually cast earlier but NOT COUNTED until AFTER election day is completely in line with expectations.
I need to add that in WI, and MI, and PA, the legislatures are all controlled by Rs. In each state the election professionals asked for the legislature to allow mail-in votes to start being processed earlier in anticipation of more mail-in votes this year due to COVID (Pa is ~10 times the number of mail-in votes in 2016!). In each case the state legislatures REFUSED to act to allow more efficient processing. A vote cast early carries exactly the same weight as one cast on election day, but they are not counted and reported at the same time. Do not be mislead by incomplete information, especially when it has been intentionally manipulated.
The R party across the country has disgraced itself by opposing simple American goals: every eligible voter should be registered, every registered voter should be afforded maximal opportunity to cast their vote, and every vote validly cast should be accurately counted.
"Trump's lawsuits" is way too vague to answer - he has so many. But the latest ones, trying to actually stop the counting in MI, PA, GA, and NC, have an Elvis Costello chance of success - Less Than Zero. The history of America and election law is that we count validly cast votes. The bigger disputes would be over whether the casting of the votes - signature match procedures, witness signatures, ballots not in their security envelope (PA only IIRC), receipt date, postmarks, etc. Because each state has its own election laws with different requirements, broad statements are not available.
As has been pointed out in many reports, lawsuits are only appropriate to correct something done against the existing law. Nothing that is being done to count the votes in MI, or GA, or NC, or PA is against existing law. Trump has a long history of threatening, or even filing, lawsuits to bully opponents. His track record in court is laughably poor.
I cannot directly address whatever video you think you saw from Detroit, but all reports I have seen are straightforward. IIRC each party is by law allowed one person per precinct to review the ballots as they are processed, and that was strictly followed. ETA: I now see that there was apparently some issue with the overall capacity of the room, and some observers from both parties were excluded. On the surface, bad planning to not choose a room with the capacity to hold the full expected capacity. But that was due, as I understand it, to reduced capacity because of COVID-related restrictions. If I was running things and knew of that, I'd get both parties together, have each line up single-file, and let them in Noah's Ark style, two-by-two, until full. Then when one of either party wanted/needed to leave, they could be replaced by their own party. But crowds banging on doors or windows, or taking pictures/videos where prohibited by law, is never ok.
Other people are absolutely NOT allowed where the votes are processed and counted. If you watch the HBO documentary "537 Votes" about the 2000 recount in Florida you can see a similar scene of a crowd of R supporters trying to improperly invade a space where they were not allowed. Not a new tactic at all. Still not legal, either.
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And I'm sure Donald and his team haven't been trying every trick in the book.
Maybe the dems are just better at it.
Or maybe the majority of Americans just got sick of the carnage that he brings and voted for a change.
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I’m just surprised that after Russia got trump elected in 2016 they’ve left him on his own this time, all they got out of it were stronger sanctions imposed on them.
On a separate note does anyone know why the likes of Baltimore and Detroit keep voting the same way since the 60’s despite the place just getting run down. The Democrats should get those politicians in to run for president they could persuade anyone to vote for them
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The only biggest surprise is that Trump got more than one vote.*
* I’m assuming he voted for himself and didn’t bugger it up.
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