Today's lies from Sturgeon

[Returnofrros]

"Deaths of people tested positive within last 28 days and dying of any cause = 3,000"

Everyone is sick to death of lockdown but what you are quoting are the numbers with lockdown. Without lockdown, even following the 'favoured' Swedish model, they'd be at least double, if not more. And every death is significant to someone, not forgetting the long-term impact on hundreds if not thousands of sufferers. The Chinese are vaccinating their population right now, the end could be in sight with the Pzifer vaccine.

Sweden should now have 64000 deaths under the Sage model, they don't.

Lockdowns don't work. The kill people, they make poor people poorer, they make comfortable people uncomfortable and they give future generations a financial headache but they may help octanganarians survive (not live) another 6 months.

[Taintedice]

Sweden should now have 64000 deaths under the Sage model, they don't.

Lockdowns don't work. The kill people, they make poor people poorer, they make comfortable people uncomfortable and they give future generations a financial headache but they may help octanganarians survive (not live) another 6 months.

Why would SAGE model for Sweden who had 6000 deaths compared to Norway's 280? Why don't you ever mention Norway or NZ, who had 25 deaths. Very few lockdowns in the US, 1000 deaths a day, is it. That's not old people, that's young and old.

[Returnofrros]

You can't prove that so it's only your opinion.

With common sense and protection of only the vulnerable whilst letting the healthy population go about their normal business we'd likely see not many more. My opinion, same as yours is only an opinion.

Like err what's that country called err tip of my tongue......mamma Mia what is it, we have to take a chance as the winner takes it all and this lockdown could be our Waterloo with the two dancing queens witty and Vallance, just gimme gimme gimme some hope.....Sweden that's it.

[Taintedice]

Like err what's that country called err tip of my tongue......mamma Mia what is it, we have to take a chance as the winner takes it all and this lockdown could be our Waterloo with the two dancing queens witty and Vallance, just gimme gimme gimme some hope.....Sweden that's it.

Sweden is not the UK. The Swedish govt care about their people, we've done this before, getting boring now.

[BCram]

Hmac. Vote labour in the expectation that they are more likely to put a dent in SNP drive for independence. The only reason for all the rush is the life expectancy of a political leader. We need to see how Brexit works out. Everything is doom and gloom. The same was true when we had to leave the ERM. If Brexit doesn't work out it would be ironic if England decided to rejoin and Scotland was struggling to comply with currency and budget deficits.

[hmac]

Hmac. Vote labour in the expectation that they are more likely to put a dent in SNP drive for independence. The only reason for all the rush is the life expectancy of a political leader. We need to see how Brexit works out. Everything is doom and gloom. The same was true when we had to leave the ERM. If Brexit doesn't work out it would be ironic if England decided to rejoin and Scotland was struggling to comply with currency and budget deficits.

Richard Leonard is a hard no from me.

The loony left of the main Labour Party is a hard no from me.

The ghost of Corbyn is hanging around, making Labour unelectable.

[BCram]

Richard Leonard is a hard no from me.

The loony left of the main Labour Party is a hard no from me.

The ghost of Corbyn is hanging around, making Labour unelectable.

I am not so sure. I know Marxism is part of the left but as was seen when Corbyn was in charge they just do not trust the people despite all their protestations to the contrary. There is a strong Christian Democratic ethos in Britain but it does not have a single party to represent it. One Nation Tories, Lib-Dems and the Labour party when it is not in thrall to Militants or Trade Unions might possibly follow a Labour leader like Sir Keir Starmer. I think unionist minded voters might vote for Labour at the next election probably because unemployment might be a major issue and this could be a problem for the present Conservative government because they chose to make decisions rather than include other parties and parliament.

[islaydarkblue]

I am not so sure. I know Marxism is part of the left but as was seen when Corbyn was in charge they just do not trust the people despite all their protestations to the contrary. There is a strong Christian Democratic ethos in Britain but it does not have a single party to represent it. One Nation Tories, Lib-Dems and the Labour party when it is not in thrall to Militants or Trade Unions might possibly follow a Labour leader like Sir Keir Starmer. I think unionist minded voters might vote for Labour at the next election probably because unemployment might be a major issue and this could be a problem for the present Conservative government because they chose to make decisions rather than include other parties and parliament.

Labour members picked the wrong brother when they selected Ed Miliband instead of his brother David Miliband.
Labour would have won the 2015 General Election if David Miliband had been leader of the Labour Party instead of ‘Red’ Ed Miliband.

[Dee_Dee]

Up here Labour are the only alternative choice to the SNP. Until more of the electorate realise this and vote accordingly we will be stuck with the SNP.

[hmac]

Up here Labour are the only alternative choice to the SNP. Until more of the electorate realise this and vote accordingly we will be stuck with the SNP.

God forbid we get stuck with Labour instead!