Cocu sacked

[MadAmster]

Nice guy, unlucky manager, glad he’s gone but sad for him too. Not looking for an argument, but he really didn’t ‘inherit a team that had been one game from the Prem’, did he?

Lost the 3 best players from that side who all returned to their parent club. Lost Captain and defensive rock in Keogh. Yes, he was prone to a blunder and if they kept stats of how many blunders result in a goal for the opposition Richard would be at the top of the pile. He also saved us a lot of goals against with his last ditch, body on the line stops. I think his penchant for putting himself about covering for everybody else was his biggest problem. That led to him being out of position too often. His best spells were when he ahd confidence in his central defensive partner and he could concentrate on what HE should be doing rather than "I ought to be there but I'll be 5 yards left of their so I can probably but not definitely do my own job but I can definitely intervene if my partner cocks up". No doubting his effort.

His one big signing missed most of Cocu's tenure with an ACL injury. He had little to no time to evaluate the squad prior to the season starting / transfer window closing. Spent a reasonable sum on Jozwiak but had to wait until he's sold Lowe and Bogle to get the money. His total net spend was around £3M. Aside from Jozwiak, the rest of the incoming cost nowt or, in today's terms, peanuts. He had no money to spend. Hopefully his replacement will have funds for January and will spend them wisely.

I probably rate Cocu alongside Nigel Clough, a victim of circumstance who, under different circumstances, may well have proved a success. As it is, in a points based business, he didn't garner enough of them to "keep the shirt".

[Geoff Parkstone]

Something of a damning with faint praise conclusion MA, but not unreasonable. I have to admit to expecting more, waiting for his methods to work but they never did. There is probably a good manager in there but not in the EFL nor with mostly British players not raised on his style of play.

[swaledale]

Lost the 3 best players from that side who all returned to their parent club. Lost Captain and defensive rock in Keogh. Yes, he was prone to a blunder and if they kept stats of how many blunders result in a goal for the opposition Richard would be at the top of the pile. He also saved us a lot of goals against with his last ditch, body on the line stops. I think his penchant for putting himself about covering for everybody else was his biggest problem. That led to him being out of position too often. His best spells were when he ahd confidence in his central defensive partner and he could concentrate on what HE should be doing rather than "I ought to be there but I'll be 5 yards left of their so I can probably but not definitely do my own job but I can definitely intervene if my partner cocks up". No doubting his effort.

His one big signing missed most of Cocu's tenure with an ACL injury. He had little to no time to evaluate the squad prior to the season starting / transfer window closing. Spent a reasonable sum on Jozwiak but had to wait until he's sold Lowe and Bogle to get the money. His total net spend was around £3M. Aside from Jozwiak, the rest of the incoming cost nowt or, in today's terms, peanuts. He had no money to spend. Hopefully his replacement will have funds for January and will spend them wisely.

I probably rate Cocu alongside Nigel Clough, a victim of circumstance who, under different circumstances, may well have proved a success. As it is, in a points based business, he didn't garner enough of them to "keep the shirt".

Not sure how you got a net spend of £3 million, seeing as last season £10 million was spent on Bieleck alone! So he had an equal amount of cash as lampard did.

I wouldn't rate Cocu at all, constantly switching players, tactics boring, after match summing up incomprehensible and basically overrated. Only a victim of his own inability to manage players and clearly out of his depth in this division.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Lowebogle sale brought 11m back Swale, which we only spent on Jozwiak this year.....

[ramAnag]

Lost the 3 best players from that side who all returned to their parent club. Lost Captain and defensive rock in Keogh.

His one big signing missed most of Cocu's tenure with an ACL injury. He had little to no time to evaluate the squad prior to the season starting transfer window closing. Spent a reasonable sum on Jozwiak but had to wait until he's sold Lowe and Bogle to get the money. His total net spend was around £3M. Aside from Jozwiak, the rest of the incoming cost nowt or, in today's terms, peanuts. He had no money to spend. Hopefully his replacement will have funds for January and will spend them wisely.

I probably rate Cocu alongside Nigel Clough, a victim of circumstance who, under different circumstances, may well have proved a success. As it is, in a points based business, he didn't garner enough of them to "keep the shirt".

Exactly as I see it, MA. Lampard inherited a side that had finished 6th, sold the top scorer, added some excellent loans and some poor permanents and finished....6th.
Cocu inherited a side that had finished 6th, was then stripped of its main playing assets, and finished 10th. By no means blameless but not entirely to blame either.
I suspect most people were satisfied with last season...but enormously disappointed with this one.
Anyway...he’s gone, probably for the best given the position we find ourselves in...time to move on.

[swaledale]

Lowebogle sale brought 11m back Swale, which we only spent on Jozwiak this year.....

Yes but we are not just talking about 1 season are we?

[Geoff Parkstone]

I'm not - "do the math"... Bieli = liebogle with a few pence left over, Joz cost 3m, what else has been spent under Cocu?

[swaledale]

I'm not - "do the math"... Bieli = liebogle with a few pence left over, Joz cost 3m, what else has been spent under Cocu?

Bieleck £10 million

[Geoff Parkstone]

So 3 +10-11=2m spent plus the odd bits here and there

[MadAmster]

Thought you were taking the wotsit, Egyptian...but it seems the odds on Rafa have been slashed from 25/1 to 4/1 overnight.
Have to imagine that Benitez would only be interested in us if the takeover is a) a nailed on certainty and b) going to involve massive investment.

Any price paid for the club will go to Mel. That won't aid the club and it's lack of funds. How can the new owners pump extra into the club? Last time I asked the question, GP came up with Stadium (Name) Sponsorship. Could we get them to sponsor and rename Moor Farm as well? Any amount for that sponsorship would have to be seen as proportionate to the EFL.

The club put the following statement out on FB [quote] Following discussions between the board and the club’s new investors, the formal process for identifying the next manager of Derby County is underway [unquote]

Note it says "investors" and not "owners". Does this mean Khaled is only buying a % of the club?

The Derby Way, statements that raise more questions than they answer.