Agree. We have not really had the same feeing that there was a real will to win at the club apart from Hartley when he came in and his first season but since then the theory seems to be much more important than just winning personal battles on the pitch. It must be something in the coaching because I can't think of many players who have left us and gone on to do well. Gallacher is one but I think he moved before he was given the play out from the back tippy tappy stuff.
Fair play. I thought his speech on the steps of Ibrox was spot on tbh. I'll always see him as someone who was prepared to take flak to stand up for what was right, rather than just jump on the bandwagon and do what was easier.
I find it interesting to hear the wide range of views you guys have on him.
I have a lot of time for the guy.
Squeezed the maximum he could out of the ability he had.
If the dees midfield wasn't as good as it was at the time Coyne and Wright wouldn't have been quite as effective.
Towering header to win derby at tannadice, ragdolling Rangers a few times almost single handedly, the first half of the semi at tynecastle when our midfield went to war v the dabs, destroying someone at the dugouts at ibrox in the Scottish cup with a no prisoners tackle all great memories.
Think it was Brian laudrup who described him as the beating heart of the Rangers team he played in.......that's some compliment.
£50k or so from Hamilton......money well spent.
As a man of a certain age I can’t get my head round this hatred of bomber what a player he was for us and I’ve not seen many better in dark blue since, the whole being a Rangers man is what seemed to upset some folk but I would guess like every other team very few players playing/played for us support us but to me I think a lot of it comes from the fall out with big Rab again probably our best keeper in the last 30/40 years (some could maybe argue for speroni) but Rab was very popular around dens and with the fans so just my opinion but I think this had bomber on the back foot with a lot of folk and he would never get them back onside but I’ll certainly never have a bad word to say against the man
I thought he was a great player at Dens and also that he did an awful lot better than some of our other managers.
I am not a Dundee FC shareholder but I remember a shareholders Q @ A meeting was taking place in Dens Park when someone in the Andy Penman Lounge noticed that the appointment of John Brown as the new Dundee manager was announced on SKY Sports news.
News travelled quickly to the shareholders meeting in an adjoining lounge and there was a rumpus.
It was reported that Chief Executive Scot Gardiner who was planning to introduce John Brown as the next Dundee manager to the people at the shareholders meeting panicked and locked both John Brown and himself in the board room to take refuge. At they could have a drink in there to soothe their nerves.
Scot Gardiner and John Brown ‘escaped’ from Dens Park to travel to watch a game at McDiarmid Park.
Some people think that John Brown was a good manager at Dens but in my opinion the team was at the top of the Championship in spite of him as manager not because of him.
It is more than a passing coincidence that Scot Gardiner previous worked in the Commercial Department at Ibrox.
If John Brown is such a good manger why has he not managed another professional football Club in Scotland or England.
Finally.
I remember that after the announcement of John Brown as manager of Dundee FC the Official Forum on the club website went into meltdown. Later Scot Gardiner asked Tayside Police to invest abusive posts about him on another Dundee forum.
Nothing more was heard about Scot Gardiner’s complaint.
It was not a shareholders meeting it was a fans meeting organised by Dee 4 life. It was on a Saturday afternoon. Dundee were playing Celtic away the next day. I was at the meeting and it was not a shareholders meeting.
Fans at the meeting already knew of Bombers appointment before it was announced on Sky Sports as the players were at the ground having already been introduced to Bomber in the dressing room beforehand and Big Rab D had spoken to several fans and let them know who the new gaffer was.
I think the plan was to introduce Bomber to the fans, but that was scrapped due to the negative reaction among the fans at the meeting.