Get A Grip Boris

[baggieal]

Schools won’t close but u turn after u turn and many schools are doing their own thing and closing anyway!

Boris says schools are safe! Schools might be safe in situ but if children are spreading the virus so how is this safe when children leave school?

Mass testings in schools? Why not mass vaccinations instead!!!

Boris says there MIGHT be tighter restrictions to come. There are 75,000 deaths as everything Boris does or says is too slow!

Don’t know why we don’t just have a full lockdown and do this properly as quite clearly the tier system is not working but hey Boris knows best!

Making our own decisions leaving the EU seemed excellent in principle but Boris against 27 others! Not so sure now we won’t end up in a mess! Already our business suffering as road export to the EU is a complete mess!

[WBA1955]

Vaccinations don't stop people getting Covid, they could stop them getting severe symptoms of the virus but that's all. Even if you are vaccinated it doesn't stop you getting the virus or passing it on.
Since children hardly get any severe symptoms the vaccines should be used on the elderly or people with underlying illnesses...if they agree to it.
Six Man City player's have now got Covid, Albion have had several, I don't know the number of premier league or EFL player's who have it.
How many do you think will die or never play again?

[Baggiemadguern]

Schools won’t close but u turn after u turn and many schools are doing their own thing and closing anyway!

Boris says schools are safe! Schools might be safe in situ but if children are spreading the virus so how is this safe when children leave school?

Mass testings in schools? Why not mass vaccinations instead!!!

Boris says there MIGHT be tighter restrictions to come. There are 75,000 deaths as everything Boris does or says is too slow!

Don’t know why we don’t just have a full lockdown and do this properly as quite clearly the tier system is not working but hey Boris knows best!

Making our own decisions leaving the EU seemed excellent in principle but Boris against 27 others! Not so sure now we won’t end up in a mess! Already our business suffering as road export to the EU is a complete mess!

Hallelujah. I have been saying this since last June. If the first lockdown had been done properly with a properly thought out exit then it would have saved many, many lives. Now the UK is in a worse mess than it was in April last year.

Two week circuit breakers don’t work, that is a fact.
Herd immunity does not work, that is a fact.
The vaccine may work, we shall wait and see.

So there is only one solution to save lives as hard as it might be.

[Yarmbaggie]

Can anyone explain to me why a National lockdown will work whereas Tier 4 at around 72% and Tier 3 the rest of the country bar the Scilly Isles doesn’t (apparently)?

The virus is passed by people contact. We, the majority, in Tier 4 are really under a National lockdown anyway. We can’t go anywhere we are asked to stay at home and the only shops open are essential food etc. We can only meet one person outside and we need to restrict our movements outside.

Those in Tier 3, the minority, are not in a much better place but can meet in groups of 6 outside and non essentials can open. However they cannot travel to a Tier 4 area and people in Tier 4 cannot travel to Tier 3 to spread the virus there.

I know I am thick but what am I missing? There is a regular review so people in Tier 3 will go to Tier 4 if the situation worsens there.

[baggieal]

Can anyone explain to me why a National lockdown will work whereas Tier 4 at around 72% and Tier 3 the rest of the country bar the Scilly Isles doesn’t (apparently)?

The virus is passed by people contact. We, the majority, in Tier 4 are really under a National lockdown anyway. We can’t go anywhere we are asked to stay at home and the only shops open are essential food etc. We can only meet one person outside and we need to restrict our movements outside.

Those in Tier 3, the minority, are not in a much better place but can meet in groups of 6 outside and non essentials can open. However they cannot travel to a Tier 4 area and people in Tier 4 cannot travel to Tier 3 to spread the virus there.

I know I am thick but what am I missing? There is a regular review so people in Tier 3 will go to Tier 4 if the situation worsens there.

You are missing the following:

Recently my area was tier 2 so surrounding Cities/Towns rammed the area to go to the pubs/restaurants but of course nobody checks and many don't listen to the rules!

Now the area is tier 3 surrounding Cities/Towns visit to go into all the shops that stay open albeit restaurants/pubs are closed. The shops are rammed!

Schools will re-open and kids will travel from different tiers ie tier 3 to tier 4 and can pass on the virus quite easily. Many schools in the area had reported cases of children having contracted the virus.

Stupid people you may say but it appears there are thousands of stupid people including professional footballers on 200K a week still hosting parties and being selfish.

The only way to contain this virus is to have a proper lockdown with everything shut including schools and get a move on with the vaccine rather than dilly dallying. Perhaps GP'S can open up surgeries 7 days a week to help vaccinate. Teachers are expected by Boris to still go to school so they perhaps are more at risk than our good old GP'S!

PS - I don't see many of our European friends doing u turn after u turn and f ucking about like Boris who I voted for but wish I hadn't as he's proven to be a prize clown!

[Yarmbaggie]

So in other words people are not following the rules and therefore making things worse.

Ok we have a National lockdown, what makes you think people will follow the rules then?

[WBA123]

Interesting to read people's view on Boris.

I'm really hoping the vaccinations will get us back to normal, but I do fear that we have an incompetent Government who will be in charge of the vaccination process. The scientists have done their job and now its down to the politicians. Anyone else think the same?

By the way, as always, I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that the Government and Boris pull this out the bag. If everyone gets vaccinated in the next few months I will hold my hands up and say what a great job they've done on the roll out. If some are still waiting for the vaccine in 2022 then this disease won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

[WBA123]

So in other words people are not following the rules and therefore making things worse.

Ok we have a National lockdown, what makes you think people will follow the rules then?

People will always break rules, in every country in the world this is happening not just ours.

My problem has been with the Governments poor communication. Government ministers and Boris himself haven't known some of the rules when asked. The Govt's chief advisor broke the rules and wasn't reprimanded.

The clear message for people to follow comes from the top.

[baggieal]

So in other words people are not following the rules and therefore making things worse.

Ok we have a National lockdown, what makes you think people will follow the rules then?

The clue is in the shops ie they won’t be rammed with customers from other tiers! With a complete lockdown there is barely anything open for morons to disobey the rules!

[mickd1961]

If this was the second or third pandemic we’d suffered I’d be apoplectic about the government’s handling of various aspects of this present situation.

Because it’s the first in living memory I’ve been willing to cut them some slack.

What has annoyed me more than anything has been the blatant lies and waffle from Matt C o c k hand!

Never again should ANY government find themselves short of PPE, all governments are guilty of penny pinching and believing it’ll never happen to them!

It’s obvious that Covid or its relatives are going to be around for a very long time so a massive ramping up of specialist respiratory units across the whole of the country should be a priority.

Annual vacation needs to be in place and everyone in education should be expected to have it each year in the way we used to have to have our various ones like TB in the 70’s.

I always believed that the virus would run rampant this winter but I’ll admit I’d changed my mind for a “herd mentality” approach but I’ve changed back again and believe we should lockdown until the mid to end of April.

I’m suffering from an as yet undiagnosed upper chest problem which is a massive worry ( not Covid ) and I think I would be in massive personal trouble if I did catch it.

So my position overall is that we’ve fumbled along since March trying to “mix and match” and to try and keep the economy from collapsing.

From this point forward we should do the following in my opinion despite the obvious kick back we’ll get from the Civil Liberties brigade.

1/ Vaccination should be mandatory for everyone apart from for those with a clear medical reason for not doing so.

2/ Possibly a health card for everyone from the age of 11 upwards.

3/ Any business to have the right to refuse employment or any customer access to their building without an up to date health card.

4/ An independent audit ( every year ) to ensure PPE and equipment is in robust enough supply to deal with another pandemic.

5/ A proper “ Track & Trace “ system to be built ready for any future eventuality.

6/ Health provision to be built up massively in respiratory services with ALL nursing staff fully trained in n this area.

7/ A new “Territorial Army” style operation set up where any person can join up and train to take over more basic nursing provision should the NHS ever become terribly stretched.

Anyone linked to this new service can then be summoned to help at times of adversity.

8/ A “reservists” system set up whereby ex doctors and nurses who retire are paid a monthly fee to agree to stay “active” in times of emergency and to top up their training as required by law.

Nothing is more important than your health as I’m fast beginning to learn so this initial pandemic has been a massive learning curve for ALL.

There are now NO excuses for not getting this right from now on.