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  1. #311
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Not the first time I've been called that Chris, and who am I to argue.
    Certainly not me sinkov.

  2. #312
    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    German scientist says 99.9% chance coronavirus leaked from Wuhan lab, with 'laboratory accident' in Wuhan

    Dr. Roland Wiesendanger, who specializes in nanoscience at the University of Hamburg, published a report on Research Gate titled "Study on the Origin of the Coronavirus Pandemic." The study was carried out from January to December 2020 based on scientific literature, print articles, online media, and correspondence with international researchers.

    Wiesendanger points out that unlike SARS and MERS, no intermediate host between bats and humans has been found more than a year since the start of the pandemic. Thus far, there is no evidence for the zoonotic theory to explain the outbreak.

    Indeed, during the joint China-WHO report issued on Feb. 9, Liang Wannian, head of the Chinese National Health Commission's Expert Panel of COVID-19 Response, stated that 50,000 samples of wild animals from 300 different species (including bats) as well as 11,000 farm animals in 31 Chinese provinces — taken between November 2019 and March 2020 — had all tested negative for SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19.

    The researcher claimed that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is "astonishingly effective" at binding to human receptor cells (hACE2). He said this is due to its special hACE2 binding domains paired with the furin cleavage sites of the virus' telltale spike protein.
    He stated that this is the first time a coronavirus has exhibited both characteristics and that it points to a "non-natural origin." Within the beta-corona viruses of sarbe-covirus lineage B, the polybasic furin cleavage site is unique to SARS-CoV-2, according to News Medical Life Sciences

    Wiesendanger noted that there were no bats sold at the infamous Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where the first known super spreader event began. Liang has stated that no animals or "animal products" had tested positive for the virus there and that individuals who contracted COVID early on had not visited the market. Those coronaviruses are only found in horseshoe bats nearly 2,000 kilometers away in the caves of Yunnan Province.

    What Wuhan does have, however, is the WIV, which holds "one of the largest collections of bat pathogens in the world," observed Wiesendanger. He asserted that it is "extremely unlikely" bats made the 2,000-km journey to Wuhan and started an outbreak that just happened to be near the WIV and at least two other labs researching bat viruses in the city.

    The scientist then mentioned that a research group, which is headed by Shi Zhengli (石正麗), also known as "Bat Woman," has since 2007 been researching how spike proteins in natural and chimeric SARS-like coronaviruses bind to the ACE2 receptors in the cells of humans, bats, and other animals. Wiesendanger alleged that the goal of this research is to make these viruses "more infectious, more dangerous, and more fatal."

    Wiesendanger wrote that the safety measures had been "documented as being insufficient" before the start of the coronavirus epidemic. In early March of last year, photos taken in 2018 from within the lab surfaced showing a warped seal on the door to a freezer holding pathogens.

    Wiesendanger then cites several incidents that are indicative of a lab accident, such as reports that a young researcher in the lab, identified as Huang Yanling, was allegedly "patient zero" and had disappeared after contracting the disease. The WIV and Chinese government have vehemently denied she was infected, but over a year later, her whereabouts are still unknown, and all information about her has been scrubbed from the WIV website. He also touched on analysis by American intelligence agencies of a private report purporting to have found evidence of a "shutdown" and "hazardous event" allegedly taking place at the WIV in October 2019.
    The U.S. State Department released a report stating that several scientists inside the lab had become ill with "symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses" in the fall of 2019. The scientist claimed he is "99.9 percent sure" that the coronavirus emerged from the laboratory.

    The "Chinese military was doing secret classified animal experiments in that same laboratory" as early as 2017. He added that there is "good reason to believe" an outbreak of a "flu-like illness" had occurred among the scientists at the WIV in the fall of 2019, just before the first cases of a new type of pneumonia were being reported in Wuhan.
    And who was funding the research?Good old Dr. Fauci after the Obama administration banned the research and the funding of such Virus Gain research in the USA.You know the same Dr Fauci who shortly after this news is revealed he receives a million dollar prize from Israel for his response to the pandemic.

  3. #313
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    And who was funding the research?Good old Dr. Fauci after the Obama administration banned the research and the funding of such Virus Gain research in the USA.You know the same Dr Fauci who shortly after this news is revealed he receives a million dollar prize from Israel for his response to the pandemic.
    Jesus wept.

  4. #314
    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Jesus wept.
    That is right BT.The same guy who criticised Trump for his response in not locking down.He forgot to tell Don that it was all really his fault for funding Virus Gain research at the Wuhan lab.WHO are not telling you this are they?
    Surprise, surprise.
    Whether it was released on purpose or by accident Fauci has a lot to answer for.

    https://www.facebook.com/NextRevFNC/...39675753888074

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    ClaretinBudapest: I have no idea about this 1 million given by Israel. I can only read what is written in NPR News .

    "As the COVID-19 pandemic unraveled, (Fauci) leveraged his considerable communication skills to address people gripped by fear and anxiety and worked relentlessly to inform individuals in the United States and elsewhere about the public health measures essential for containing the pandemic's spread," the awards committee said. "In addition, he has been widely praised for his courage in speaking truth to power in a highly charged political environment."

    The Dan David Prize, established by the late Italian Israeli philanthropist Dan David, annually awards three prizes of $1 million honoring contributions to knowledge of the past, contributions to society in the present and advances for the future.
    This year the three awards focused on health and medicine.

    So we have 'the awards committee', affiliated with Tel Aviv University, it said it honored Fauci for his career in public health and "speaking truth to power" during the politicized COVID-19 crisis. and a late Italian Israeli philanthropist Dan David. It then hardly seems to be the Israeli Government awarding the prize?
    He was a trusted authority for the public on preventive measures against COVID-19, even as former President Donald Trump downplayed the virus and blocked Fauci from appearing on several television programs. Trump called Fauci part of a group of "idiots" and suggested he might fire him after the presidential election, which Trump lost. Trump called Fauci ‘a Disaster’ and shruged off the virus as an infectious soar.

    Then Dr. Anthony Fauci, told The New York Times his time advising President Donald Trump’s coronavirus response team was complicated by the president’s tendency to take pandemic advice from unqualified friends and his aversion to being contradicted or questioned.

    I do not see the Israeli Government handing over 1 million to an American. But we can assume donations flow into Universities ,religious Institutions etc, from rich Americans, then who would be pulling the strings?? Self interest maybe? Democrat involvement? Who knows?

  6. #316
    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    ClaretinBudapest: I have no idea about this 1 million given by Israel. I can only read what is written in NPR News .

    "As the COVID-19 pandemic unraveled, (Fauci) leveraged his considerable communication skills to address people gripped by fear and anxiety and worked relentlessly to inform individuals in the United States and elsewhere about the public health measures essential for containing the pandemic's spread," the awards committee said. "In addition, he has been widely praised for his courage in speaking truth to power in a highly charged political environment."

    The Dan David Prize, established by the late Italian Israeli philanthropist Dan David, annually awards three prizes of $1 million honoring contributions to knowledge of the past, contributions to society in the present and advances for the future.
    This year the three awards focused on health and medicine.

    So we have 'the awards committee', affiliated with Tel Aviv University, it said it honored Fauci for his career in public health and "speaking truth to power" during the politicized COVID-19 crisis. and a late Italian Israeli philanthropist Dan David. It then hardly seems to be the Israeli Government awarding the prize?
    He was a trusted authority for the public on preventive measures against COVID-19, even as former President Donald Trump downplayed the virus and blocked Fauci from appearing on several television programs. Trump called Fauci part of a group of "idiots" and suggested he might fire him after the presidential election, which Trump lost. Trump called Fauci ‘a Disaster’ and shruged off the virus as an infectious soar.

    Then Dr. Anthony Fauci, told The New York Times his time advising President Donald Trump’s coronavirus response team was complicated by the president’s tendency to take pandemic advice from unqualified friends and his aversion to being contradicted or questioned.

    I do not see the Israeli Government handing over 1 million to an American. But we can assume donations flow into Universities ,religious Institutions etc, from rich Americans, then who would be pulling the strings?? Self interest maybe? Democrat involvement? Who knows?
    Just a look at previous award winners tells you all you need to know Balam:-

    The Dan David Prize, established in 2000, gives $1 million awards in three categories each year for contributions addressing the past, present and future.
    Fauci won the prize for achievement in the “present,” in the field of public health, the foundation said.

    The foundation is based at Tel Aviv University, where it provides grants to a number of programs in the humanities and social sciences. The foundation sets aside 10% of the prize money for scholarships.
    Foundation Director Ariel David, son of the prize founder, said this year’s laureates “have probed how humanity has dealt with sickness and pandemics throughout history; they have provided relief, guidance and leadership in dealing with current outbreaks ... and they are at the forefront of discovering new treatments that give us hope for the future in the ongoing battle against cancer and other diseases.”

    Previous recipients of the Dan David Prize include former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, cellist Yo-Yo Ma, novelist Margaret Atwood, Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales and filmmakers Joel and Ethan Coen.

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    The whole point being it was not the Israeli government doing this ,(1 million given to someone?) In Britain you have Oxford and Cambridge, in the states Yale, Stanford etc. What they do, or any University, I do not lose sleep over it.


    What is happening: Iran has its proxies in Hamas ,in Gaza. Hezbullah in Lebanon and Syria. The Houthis in Yemen. All supported by Iran. Why do the E U and the US sleep ?Its business! Ah! but when American soldiers are attacked with rockets in Iraq, Biden responds.
    ''U.S. strikes Iranian-backed militia in Syria after Baghdad attack!''

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