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  1. #211
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    Cheers Balan, I'll tell her.

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    Vaccination passports

    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/co...-report-658002

    The main concern, according to the report, is that the passport is very easy to duplicate, with very little security, which can easily be bypassed using relatively simple means.
    The details of the passport are meant to be examined using a barcode scanner, though several of them are not examined against those which are confirmed on the barcode scan, according to Amir Carmi, head of information security at HackerU Solutions, who was interviewed for the report.
    He also claimed that the site which produces the green passports could be a privacy risk, as it contains the personal details of those vaccinated and may not be properly secured against cyber-attacks.

    Andrei Yarmenko, Vice President of Technology at Hub Security, said that the reason it would be easy to make forgeries of the passports is that the barcode is basically just an unverified encrypted version of the passport's text – although he did state that implementing cybersecurity programs against this would be relatively easy.
    "The green passport has yet to be launched, and its current format is meant to serve as a quick and initial answer," according to the Health Ministry statement. "The ministry is also collaborating with other countries around the world, and the World Health Organization, on the implementation of a secure barcode which will serve as a global standard – and once that is defined, a new passport will be produced to comply with the new parameters."

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    If there's money in it forgers will find a way. It's a constant battle with currency, certificates stand no chance.

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    this article should be of interest to any who have had - or are contemplating having a vaccine - very informative, of the kind we would expect mainstream journalism (if it wasn't so universally corrupted). to present.

    What and who are behind the Vaccine Developers and Big Pharma agenda

    For instance, mainstream media has had little, if anything, to say about the role of the vaccine developers’ private company—Vaccitech—in the Oxford-AstraZeneca partnership, a company whose main investors include former top Deutsche Bank executives, Silicon Valley behemoth Google, and the UK government. All of them stand to profit from the vaccine alongside the vaccine’s two developers, Adrian Hill and Sarah Gilbert, who retain an estimated 10 percent stake in the company. Another overlooked point is the plan to dramatically alter the current sales model for the vaccine following the initial wave of its administration, which would see profits soar, especially if the now-obvious push to make COVID-19 vaccination an annual affair for the foreseeable future is made reality.

    To fully finance Hill and Gilbert’s Vaccitech, and specifically its quest to develop a universal flu vaccine, Oxford Science Innovations sought £600 million from “outside investors,” chief among them the Wellcome Trust and the venture-capital arm of Google, Google Ventures. This means that Google is poised to make a profit from the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine at a time when its video platform YouTube has moved to ban COVID-19 vaccine–related content that shines a negative light on COVID-19 vaccines, including the Oxford-AstraZeneca candidate. Other investors in Vaccitech include Sequoia Capital’s Chinese branch and the Chinese pharmaceutical company Fosun Pharma. In addition, the UK government has put an estimated £5 million into the company and is also expected to make a return on the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.

    Quotes from the developers of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine themselves also point to a pandemic-dominated future and a desire for the crisis to be prolonged so that the vaccine can be widely distributed. Gilbert told the UK Independent in August that she believes COVID-19 is just the beginning and that COVID-like pandemics will become more frequent in the near future. The Jenner Institute vaccine team seems so determined to create the COVID vaccine that, in June, Hill was quoted by the Washington Post as stating that he wanted the pandemic to stick around, saying, “We’re in the bizarre position of wanting COVID to stay, at least for a little while. But cases are declining.” He also stated that his team was in “a race against the virus disappearing.”


    Full article - well worth a read.

    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/12...nics-movement/


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    Quote Originally Posted by kritichris View Post
    Had my Astra Zeneca this morn with my wife. I'm fine ( footie and rugby results aside) but my wife has gone down hill with side effects, currently in bed feeling lousy and aching all over.
    How's the missus Chris ? Mrs S had the AstraZeneca on Friday, she was rough Friday night and Saturday, bit better yesterday and almost back to normal this morning. Hopefully Mrs Chris is feeling better as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    They've got us by the short and curlies Balan, and they're not inclined to relinquish that grip. Over here we've had the 4,000 deaths a day prediction, never happened but we still got Lockdown 2, the Christmas surge, never happened, the mutant strain which was more infectious and 30% more deadly, peaked before the end of December, but we still had Lockdown 3, to which, although we're five weeks past the peak, there is no end in sight, and now we have deadly variants from abroad arriving by the plane load, necessitating quarantine hotels and house to house testing. You really wonder what it will be next, but they'll think of something, there's no doubt about that.
    That prediction didn't take long to be fulfilled did it.

    The AstraZeneca might not be as effective as they hoped against the SA variant, which of course leads to this on the BBC website.

    "Viruses mutate - so what is happening is not surprising. The mutations seen in South Africa change the part of the virus that the vaccines target. It means all the vaccines that have been produced so far are likely to be affected in some way. Trials for Novavax and Janssen vaccines that were carried out in South Africa showed less effectiveness against this variant. Both are currently before the UK regulator. Therefore the news about the Oxford-AstraZeneca does not come out of the blue. The fact it now only has "minimal" effect according to reports is concerning - the other vaccines showed effectiveness in the region of 60% against the South African variant. But we should be careful about rushing to judgement. The study was small so there is only limited confidence in the findings."

    And then this, on BBC Radio4,

    "Dr Mike Tildesley, an infectious disease expert who advises the government, told BBC Radio 4's today programme that "it's very possible" the South Africa variant could already be quite widespread in the UK. The "surge testing" taking place in certain areas in England "really needs to be effective" to halt its spread, he said, but "sadly we may be in a similar situation to the Kent variant" which eventually spread across the whole country. He added that there are "significant implications" if it is the case that the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is less effective against the South Africa variant as it may mean "more restrictions might be needed for longer".

    Dr Mike is an 'infectious disease expert who advises the government,' presumably he's one of the Mad Scientists of Sage then, and what is the advice he will be giving the government ?

    " "more restrictions might be needed for longer".

    Like I said, didn't take long did it.

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    I've just read we might now need three separate doses to beat the variants and it is increasingly likely the jabs will be an annual event.

    F**k Off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I've just read we might now need three separate doses to beat the variants and it is increasingly likely the jabs will be an annual event.

    F**k Off!
    I've always assumed the jabs would be an annual event, just like the flu jabs, and just like with flu, there will be variants that vaccines will be less effective against. Nothing new here at all.

    I've also been reading that because Flu has all but been eradicated, by calling it Covid, the drug companies have no idea what to do about next season's flu vaccines. They can't study what no longer appears to exist.

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    Had my AstraZeneca jab on Sat afternoon. Slept until 4pm on Sunday. Still feel quite lousy today and very tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    I've always assumed the jabs would be an annual event, just like the flu jabs, and just like with flu, there will be variants that vaccines will be less effective against. Nothing new here at all.

    I've also been reading that because Flu has all but been eradicated, by calling it Covid, the drug companies have no idea what to do about next season's flu vaccines. They can't study what no longer appears to exist.
    It's called the "Big Pharma $hitfest" sinkov and you are welcome to it mon ami.

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