I do and the Chairmen are right about half of the equation. The manager is ultimately responsible for defeats but also for victories which seems to get lost with some fans.
You are out? I fear that's a promise you can't keep.
When did I ever say I wanted Ardley was boss when either Nolan or Kewell was sacked that season? I can't remember anyone saying that tbh.
As for spunking money see answer above regarding our past chairman and owner. No better example of spunking money we haven't got at Notts. But of course he can't be blamed..... Because he can't kick the ball lol
The managers manage,that's why they are employed.
Were you not aware of that laddo?
He failed to save us , hence the manager was to blame.
Yes you can blame Hardy for picking the manager,but ultimately that was ardleys job.
He was employed to save us from relegation.
He was given money we didn't have to create a team.
Ardley failed in each task.
But yes blame the chairman if you like.but it doesn't absolve Ardley in the slightest.
So you aren't out at all, that didn't last long
Ardley should definitely take some of the blame for the relegation season, this has been examined, discussed and debated to death. All corners have been covered.
However you do realise that if the the chairman doesn't sack Nolan, and doesn't also sack Kewell, the man you seem to solely blame doesn't get employed in the first place. Even with the above two surprising sackings occurring he then employs someone who in hindsight failed. Nobody was demanding Ardley it was his choice. Hardy was the ultimate boss and makes all the big decisions at the club including hiring and firing managers.
This is only part of the reason why I and others blame Hardy, but that's all old news now.
You blame NA most I blame AH most, let's agree to disagree. We really don't need to go over this again
What went before is irrelevant.
He was employed to do a job
A job you state he wasnt up to.
Yet you still insist hes a good manager and the man to take us forward
That is the main point of the debate.
Not how he came to get the job,but what hes done since hes had it,,,
In your own words he wasnt up to it....
Please stop deflecting the subject matter,
Another example of his frailties would be yesterday
A must win game at home..a chance to show our intentions of winning the league for automatic promotion and we go out to play for a draw but try and pinch a win ,,
The same old Ardley philosophy..the one you keep promoting
Still we might show these part timers how to play !