Piss poor

[robinrover]

I feel this season champs the pressure is more so.
He has openly said this was the season we made a push for the play offs and the squad on paper has reflected that.
Other seasons,stability has been the key word but there is only so much of that the owners will put up with.
Stability=mid table
We are heading for that finish again and that is not good enough.

[champs95]

I feel this season champs the pressure is more so.
He has openly said this was the season we made a push for the play offs and the squad on paper has reflected that.
Other seasons,stability has been the key word but there is only so much of that the owners will put up with.
Stability=mid table
We are heading for that finish again and that is not good enough.

All Covid has shown me is football is a pretty boring sport. I thought I loved it. What I love, is the going to a game. The chat beforehand. Meeting with a friend, being social. The few beers before the match. Then afterwards, no matter if we lose, or win, you chat about it. You thrash over whats just happened. if you win, you a little spring in your step. If you lose then you have even more to discuss. Its getting out of the house. Its blowing off some steam. Its the social activity.

the actual 90 mins of football is normally the slight let down. Most games in the modern era are basically 3 or 4 players knocking the ball around the back. Or sideways. Very little action is in either box.

All this has doine is highlight to me none of this is important. I am just taking another view. Sky, radio, silly football fan forums talk about this golden promotion like its the be all and end all.
We do NOT want to go up. It would be embarrasing. We are nowhere near good enough.
But then ....98% clubs every single season 'fail'. Most clubs are just midtable clubs going absolutely nowhere.
The whole of the Champ from top to bottom are all going nowhere. If 3 go up, 2 come straight back down. The other one rattles about for a few years, then they drop too.
We aren't failing. We are who we are. Like the vast majority of other clubs.
We have a small fan base, a pretty average team, and are midtable. Like we have been almost our entire history.

Its crap most weeks, we look ok sometimes, and awful others. That's the whole division, not just us.
I've seen the Prem. Been there and done that. Its boring. We would lose 9/10 nil to clubs like Man City or Liverpool.

So I just feel we are where we are. No point expecting something that will not happen.

If we got a new manager, it would go one of a few ways. The likeliest is we stay midtable. As that's what we are. A midtable Champ club. What then? Do we then sack the next manager?
If we get it wrong, (which I'm 50/50 on) then we could easily end up back in Div1. Only this time, for a decade.
Or we get lucky, and become one of only 2% of football clubs that actually achieve something in a league campaign.

For me, I am just not bothered. Sky and other football forums tell me that this is what we need to aspire to? I am unsure. I just think the game itself has been highlighted and its all over hyped, too much exposure, too many games and its all a bit boring.

If we lose another few games, he will probably go.

[Despair]

Just taking a gander at how things are being perceived by you good chaps on here.
Can’t disagree over TM really, he’s out of ideas and waiting for the P45 I think.
They were shocking defensively wed night for the two goals.
Yep that’s correct Champs , take the supporter away from the stadium and staid doesn’t begin to describe it - spectacle wise. As for the supporter enjoyment - well the Covid effect - re pubs has been the double whammy, as at least getting together in the pub was giving some of the socialising benefit back.
I’ll bang my drum again and say the increasingly vast money in the game killed it for me a fair while back now.
Even average players are on millionaire salaries and is a joke.
Aucks departed seemingly a while back and to be honest I’m not surprised as the disagreements were getting too feisty.
Good give and take banter is fine but it was tipping over that reasonable boundary far too often.

So no, I’ve not succumb to Covid in my absence I’m fine and dandy🙂

[champs95]

Just taking a gander at how things are being perceived by you good chaps on here.
Can’t disagree over TM really, he’s out of ideas and waiting for the P45 I think.
They were shocking defensively wed night for the two goals.
Yep that’s correct Champs , take the supporter away from the stadium and staid doesn’t begin to describe it - spectacle wise. As for the supporter enjoyment - well the Covid effect - re pubs has been the double whammy, as at least getting together in the pub was giving some of the socialising benefit back.
I’ll bang my drum again and say the increasingly vast money in the game killed it for me a fair while back now.
Even average players are on millionaire salaries and is a joke.
Aucks departed seemingly a while back and to be honest I’m not surprised as the disagreements were getting too feisty.
Good give and take banter is fine but it was tipping over that reasonable boundary far too often.

So no, I’ve not succumb to Covid in my absence I’m fine and dandy��

My Dad tells me it all started to change on the 60's. All goes back to then. Up to the point of segregation, you went to football, sometimes away, but stood with the other fans, mixed in. You had a laugh and a bit of banter, but both sets of fans enjoyed the football. It was fun to go to matches. Then they started to segregate, fans where kept apart, then allowed by the Police after the match to kick seven bells of **** out of one another, so they could weigh in and get their over-time pay. Society had changed, and suddenly going into the 70's and onwards it then became quite scary at times to go to football matches. You where treated like scum of the earth even if you just went to watch football. Tribalism which started in the late 60's emanated alongside a new sub culture and football hooliganism was born.
Sky changed things in the early 90's, re-packaged it up and an influx of money arrived. Foreign players arrived, funnily enough we where one if not 'the' early big-players re financial clout. But the tribalism still exists now. More so online, and racism is still a huge issue. But Sky's input, meant oversaturation of a product.
And here we are in the middle of a Pandemic in 2021 with players earning £250,000 a week. Most matches are keeper throughs it centre half who plays it to full back. Who then plays it back to the centre back, who then plays it to the other full back ....that's about 85% of game. Goalmouth action (which they put up every game) equates over a 90 min match to about 5/6%. The rest is absolute tosh. Made 10 times less entertaining because there are no crowds in. And we are getting pretty much every single game broadcast live. While we are stuck in.

So I just feel its all massively over hyped and way too much focus and importance is put on it. The hate factor exists because if this stupid tribalism that started in the 60.'s and perpetuated itself into modern football. And its not relevant anymore. This world, or more the point this country will be so severely affected economically post Covid and the fact these lads are earning such disgusting sums of money in such times will become more of an issue. Its been exposed as being quite a boring overhyped sport that lacks its crucial element, the fans.
I'm just realising, its just as much the social aspect as the actual football for me.