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    State of Play at Turf Moor

    It's grim up north that's for sure, but after another lamentable display, I don't see the point in having a pop at Sean Dyche. Certainly it was poor yet again, but surely we all know that what we are seeing now is nothing more than chickens coming home to roost, as they inevitably were going to do, it was always a matter of when, not if.

    I cannot believe there is one Burnley fan who hasn't said, at some point over the last three years, that if we don't refresh the squad it's going to come back and bite us on the bum, in fact we knew we were asking to be relegated, and we've been saying it summer, after summer, after summer. But money to refresh the squad has not been forthcoming, and exactly what we all predicted would happen is now happening, our bum has been bitten and we're sliding into the relegation battle.

    So given that we all knew this was coming, and we all know why it's happening, why turn on the manager ? This is not something Dychball is responsible for, it's not something a tweak of formation here, or earlier substitutions there, can cure, the problem is a deep seated lack of quality and depth in the squad, caused by the refusal of the board to release adequate funds to the manager over last half a dozen transfer windows.

    We all know this for a fact, so why blame the manager ?

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    Only a total eejit could blame Dyche sinkov, but I blame him for not giving Garlick an ultimatum:

    "Back me or I go!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Only a total eejit could blame Dyche sinkov, but I blame him for not giving Garlick an ultimatum:

    "Back me or I go!"

    so...he was content with the state of affairs, the existing conditions - he reminded us of it on Numerous ocassions...went along with it, stuck to the gameplan - didn't rock the boat - put the board/garlick under pressure....yet he carries none of the blame for the position we're in today - you'd have to be a deluded fruitcake to believe his collusion to be above reproach - imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
    so...he was content with the state of affairs, the existing conditions - he reminded us of it on Numerous ocassions...went along with it, stuck to the gameplan - didn't rock the boat - put the board/garlick under pressure....yet he carries none of the blame for the position we're in today - you'd have to be a deluded fruitcake to believe his collusion to be above reproach - imo.

    I agree with that also Norder but he was never properly backed by the board and we do not know what conversations went on regarding the recruiting side.He could have been promised funds that simply never materialised for one reason or another but he never really publicly complained about the situation.Complicit I would say rather than colluding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    I agree with that also Norder but he was never properly backed by the board and we do not know what conversations went on regarding the recruiting side.He could have been promised funds that simply never materialised for one reason or another but he never really publicly complained about the situation.Complicit I would say rather than colluding.

    can't disagree that he's Complicit in his involvement - Buda....but am sticking with Collusion because I dont agree (as some) that his collaboration is enough divided from the decision makers to distance him from the larger responsibility.



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    In the Game against 'Spurs.' Ben Mee stood in front of Bale, that is before Bale, ,facing the incoming delivery by Son. So he allowed Bale to stand behind him, but not offside. Two mins and Bales first goal! (A schoolboy error!) Do we operate as a team or individuals?

    With the 3rd goal, both Tarks and Mee stood near Kane, (marking Kane?) This left Lucas M, not covered .... and he scored. Taylor was not at fault, he had an attack coming down his flank, and were he had to be. It was Mee!

    The last goal , Two Burnley defenders (Mee and Taylor) and two Spurs attackers. around the halfway line. Tarks had gone upfield to support Lawton and left his defence open. Between an attacker Moira, and Mee, at least 7 yds. With Bale some 15 yds. (from Taylor to Bale). The goal happened because of Tarks leaving his defence open.

    Three goals that could have been avoided!

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    BT : As I see it if we leave attackers not covered well, they will score goals! Give an attacker 2-3 yds and your dead, perhaps stick to him like glue and he is dead!

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    Exactly Sinkov. The blame lies squarely at the feet of Garlick and Co.We now know why they did not spend on the squad.That very money intended for recruitment has landed in their bank accounts.
    All the kind press we received over the years in the PL about having good custodians of the club and how well run the club was and that the directors are Burnley fans etc etc.
    Makes you wonder....

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    I accept that Sinkov but I do feel that Sean is his own worst enemy in some cases.

    Dyche is very rigid in the way he plays and refuses to alter anything , I’ve posted it before that it’s slightly Archaic in approach and is inflexible in shape and any changes.

    In other words we are so Very Very predictable————- you can blame the board if you like but Sean definitely has a hand in that.

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    I must be a total eejit. We've seen the current squad play well in some games but Dyche can't cope with change, sticking to 442 come what may. Even against WB with 10 players he hadn't the nouse to go 433 to put the pressure on them, we just sat back and let them come at us. We had the players to beat Fulham and WBA but played the wrong tactics and that was down to Dyche, 4 points thrown away. Games like today, away against a "good" team he just plays damage limitation which means our defence is under constant pressure and the front two get no service. Dyche is the manager and the buck stops there, with him.

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