Scottish Government moving the goalposts

[Returnofrros]

Bit confused here G.
Has the UK in the last 7 years became "the most successful union the world has ever known" which under cameron/may/Johnson I find incredible and absurd.
Or
7 years ago you wanted to leave "the most successful union the world has ever known" which does seem strange.

I've no problem with anyone changing views over different periods of time or different parties/leaders governing but I do find it unusual to see anyone have such a change when it's the same party governing, and you were like me a big indy supporter. I usually vote for the individual my as the parties imo are all ****. My preference wud be independence with a Labour gov with a John Smith type in charge.

Short answer.

Tee off at 11.

Hated Clegg, Cameron and Osbourne and what they did to disability benefits.....clouded my judgement.

Liked Salmond as a politician, forgetting I knew little of what was coming behind him.

i stopped working 80 hours a week in 2013 and have read a lot more since and got more interested.

I now appreciate what we have in the UK and just didn't realise it back then.

I changed my mind.

[BCram]

Read interesting comment about Scotland Act. It was not thought that any party would ever win an outright majority which is why there is no second chamber to review legislation. Maybe Westminster should review the arrangements? The way the SNP have acted to frustrate the Salmond Committer enquiries might be justification. Not sure that Westminster is any different but at least the legal set up is separate.

[deecom]

Read interesting comment about Scotland Act. It was not thought that any party would ever win an outright majority which is why there is no second chamber to review legislation. Maybe Westminster should review the arrangements? The way the SNP have acted to frustrate the Salmond Committer enquiries might be justification. Not sure that Westminster is any different but at least the legal set up is separate.

I have never read the Scotland Act , but looked it up.
Passed by uK parliament, Westminster in 1998, but also amended in 2012 For extra powers as requested by SNP government.
Interesting to read the powers that that can be controlled by a Scottish government.
There is als another amendment in 2016 .

[BCram]

Was interested in the principle that the devolved powers did not allow for Scottish parliament to sort out the problem caused when there is a conflict between the courts and Holyrood.

[Taintedice]

If the facts change then it seems sensible to change your opinion. Oil was going to bankroll much of the Scottish economy. Doesn't look good with that underpinning of our economy. I don't know anyone who has managed to justify every decision they have made in their lives.

Good to see your support for a 2nd referendum given so many have changed their minds since 2014. Oil could provide so much more for Scotland's econony, unfortunately Salmond chose not to venture down that path, instead just concentrated on the price of a barrel rather than seeking to explore the Norway model, for example.

[Taintedice]

plus another 7 years of the SNP with Nicoliar in charge has opened my eyes.

If you were being honest, I doubt anything the Scottish govt did pre-covid even registered with you, certainly didn't with me. Why would it.

[Taintedice]

and you were like me a big indy supporter.

oh my

[jdfc]

Good to see your support for a 2nd referendum given so many have changed their minds since 2014. Oil could provide so much more for Scotland's econony, unfortunately Salmond chose not to venture down that path, instead just concentrated on the price of a barrel rather than seeking to explore the Norway model, for example.

I fail to see how oil revenues will be good for Scotland when you consider the SNP are at the fore front of zero carbon

[Taintedice]

Norway currently investing billions in hydrogen technology, we're building windmills everywhere. Zero carbon just means planting more trees.

[Returnofrros]

I fail to see how oil revenues will be good for Scotland when you consider the SNP are at the fore front of zero carbon

We will all have monkey butler's in an independent Scotland.