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    The Sound of Music.

    What a cracking film, you wont get that from modern film makers, they are so far up themselves. This film does show that families are the crucible of adults, that Mr Von Trapp was turned around. Well done Julie.

    Most families are not blessed with such luck. They produce narcissistic, psychopathic monsters who then through politics maintain the stream of hate.

    Here are some.

    The Germ Corbyn

    Gordon Brown

    Tony Blair

    Michael Foot.

    All selling do goodism while doing hate. In fact, anything with the Labour attachment is highly questionable.

    Then theres the chief exec of United, " Boo and be banned".

    Vlad Putin

    President Erdogan of Turkey.

    Bolsonaro of Brazil, allowing covid to kill his own people, and cutting the Amazon down, and trying to be president permanently.

    Macron, not much better.

    Merkle, the architect of new communism.

    I could go on.

    And Jesus died for this?? Hes more optimistic than i am. As Spock said, the history of human kind is blood soaked. God help us all, we need it.

    Viv of Jesus Green.

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    Here’s another view, Frank. You mention hate, but it’s all a matter of opinion. I don’t think that Corbyn, Brown, Blair and Foot hated anyone, they just had different policies to you. It’s very telling of you that you judge that as hate. On this Easter Sunday, I can’t see anyone that isn’t tolerant of other people’s views (like you) entering the kingdom of Heaven, can you?

    Corbyn was never in power, nor was Foot, but Brown and Blair were and they did some good before ultimately failing amongst wide-ranging criticism, largely deserved. Blair had a war, and he has blood on his hands. Same as Thatcher, though one of her wars was more justifiable. The other, against ordinary working families, wasn’t. She killed as many folk through suicide and the effects of poverty as died during the Falklands war. Brown sold off the gold reserves, Thatcher most of the infrastructure of the country, all so that big business could profit. She was elected on the back of an advertising campaign that told everyone the “Labour isn’t working” accompanied by a picture of a dole queue. The first thing that she did in power was to triple the length of that queue. There has never been more hate in a British Prime Minister than there was in Thatcher. She was like you Frank, generally wrong and intolerant of another point of view.

    Now we have Boris, who has killed more people that any PM since the last war. Not through hate, just through stupidity and arrogance. But those failings are a result of a Tory upbringing and privilege which he relies on more than intelligence and common sense. His failure to shut down this county, an island, at the beginning of this pandemic has had disasterous consequences, and it was done to protect his business mates aka the economy. Of course, the economy has suffered much more through his initial dithering.

    There you go Frank. You are a bit like Thatcher and Boris yourself; stupid, arrrogant and full of hate. Your actions in the competition on the Carlisle board underlines your selfishness, a trait to be found in most Tories, but also proved your stupidity and arrogance. So by all means put up stupid lists like the one above, that’s your right and your opinion. Just don’t be surprised when people with other views point out your own shortcomings.

    Which are many.

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    Great post, someone to stand up to me at last. Maybe not so much Blair, he understood economics, the others hated the rich and not so rich. Socialism is about hate, if your not socialist. Brown was a racist, against the English.

    Blair understood, something so simple, that the country has to make a profit to live, to pay the bills. Unusual for Labour. Socialism hates business, even though it is the life blood of everything. Its not multi nationals that keep this country going, a target for the reds, but small businesses, i pay income tax twice.

    Thatcher, applying common understood that industries like steel and mining and whatever,,,

    HAS TO MAKE A PROFIT.

    You cant pay people to produce stuff that cant be sold, this is the economics of crass stupidity. Ts communities are lost, its cant be avoided, but is actually required. Everything changes in time, or die. Would labour pay miners to produce coal that backs up, and cant be sold? Of course not. Or steel. But backs violence against such things. Explain that.

    Its a like one species becoming extinct because it doesnt work anymore, and cant survive.

    Its a universal law, its not politics.

    But there you are Griff, saying it is some sort of crime, i can only put that down to brainwashing and hatred. Thatcher was a bally hero. France has yet to have that revolution, from the dead hand of socialism.

    The country is now moving on from coal, steel, etc into high tech, and making big money. The north has to develop, because it has no choice, the safe black faces of the past has gone.

    The new species has to adapt from a horned bill, to a bow and arrow. Not a good analogy, but there you go. Even that will go in time, something else will be more important, and we will have to change again. Cambridge is full of high tech companies, god knows what goes on in those places, i think theres more than a bunsun burner and a man in a white coat.

    Your are correct in my view of socialism, its only use is to high light the correct way to go. Hate is a strong word, despicable is better, after all, adults, and the strength to face reality, is not a socialist trait.

    To try and distill this argument, please point out the wrongness of shutting down the coal mines and steel. Please.

    Oh, and the fact that people have to work to make a PROFIT so we can all prosper.

    I LOVE MAGGIE.

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    P.S And you have a temper....wow.

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    You don’t always have to make a profit, Frank, if you are talking about something on which the country relies in which case you have to take into account the cost of the alternative. So, if the country relies on potatoes, and they’re being produced at a loss, then you have to calculate how much it would cost to import them and add to that the costs of giving welfare payments and retraining the newly unemployed former potato producers when you shut down the potato fields. And you can never go back; once the potato-fields have factories and houses built on them they’re gone. And that’s the point at which your foreign potato supplier increases the cost of his potatoes in the safe knowledge that you can no longer grow them yourself.

    A similar thing is happening in Whitehaven where they want to open a new coal-mine. The environmentalists are up in arms, nationally and internationally. How dare we open a new mine to dig up fossil fuels? But the coal is of the sort needed to produce this country’s higher quality steels and, without supplying it ourselves, it would have to be imported. Of course then even more fuel of some sort would have to be used (probably diesel) to get it here, but that means nothing to your average environmentalist. Coal = bad to them. It’s the same with your economic argument, Frank, where loss= bad even when it’s sometimes a viable option.

    It’s not always black and white, heaven and hell or profit and loss, Frank, and it’s only your blinkered, narcissistic approach to life that’s stopping you seeing that.

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    Classic concrete thinking. The country does rely on potatoes. If there is a need, business supplies. The country gets what it needs, business gets a profit, its win win. Business is infinately flexible.

    In dire straights the government will simply command fen farmers to grow potatoes instead of beet or whatever , like wise, mines will re open.

    Its about long term prospects. If the long term prospects of potatoes is grim, then we will grow our own, as with coal. If homes and businesses relied on it, which they dont. If we can get it on the global market without opening our own, we will.

    I cant see a global shortage of coal or potatoes. If you can buy polish coal for five pounds a sack, and the British was ten, you buy polish, as it was in the 1970s. Its about the global market, we dont have to produce everything ourselves.

    You are right that not everything is about profit, when people are cold or hungry. Its about governance, you cant run a country on opinion polls, you have to govern. Houses can be pulled down, farmers ordered to grow potatoes.

    Its not me thats black and white. Is it. As for profit, can we really pay for an NHS without it? Billions go in, very little is seen on the front line. My garden could grow a lot of potatoes, want some?

    A city almost the size of Cambridge has been wiped out in a year, what do the kill the bill protestors not understand?

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    You’ve revealed your ultra right-wing credentials there Frank. In essence you’re a fascist; you would simply like a Government that would dictate, telling everyone what to do. And that’s not government. And how is the NHS funded by profit?

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    Crikey. What ultra right wing credentials. Do you mean that in an emergency like covid, that the government should be led by public opinion? That Churchill should canvass public opinion before attacking Germany? How is the NHS funded by profit?

    Business thats how, bartering, selling, buying, the way its always been done since time began. We want potatoes we buy them from whoever, Egypt needs beet, we sell them beet, unless they get it cheaper from Ireland.

    Then there is taxes, like i said i pay income tax twice.

    Thats how the NHS is funded.

    Socialism is a paranoid illness, no matter what i say, you will hold on too your diseased ideas. You are a lost soul, immature, paranoid, hateful, no measure of logic and truth will change it.

    How did you think it was funded if not by tax on business.? Is it funded by Monopoly money?

    You exibit all the faults of socialism, you live in cuckoo land. You have lost contact with reality.

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    The real problem is that im ten times brighter than you, and not easily led. I cant believe what youve said.

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    You’re not all that bright, Frank, it’s just your narcissistic personality telling you that you are.

    Well done incidentally for paying double income tax. That’s a very generous thing to do, borderline socialist in fact, volunteering to give from your vast reserves of wealth for the benefit of the nation. Do you also pay 40% VAT? I take my hat off to you sir.

    You were saying that if people are cold or hungry houses could be demolished and food grown. All in the same paragraph so that’s certainly what you meant. But people are cold and hungry now Frank as witnessed by the growth of food banks, Marcus Rashford’s campaign etc. So it seems that that’s what you think the Government should do. Confiscating property rather that relying on market forces is quite a right wing approach, I think you’ll agree. Wartime is different but that wasn’t what you were talking about in those sentences.

    I’m nor saying that the government should be led by public opinion either, those were your words and I don’t know why you think that those are my views.

    And you’ve finally got it Frank, the NHS is funded by taxes, but why do you single out those paid by businesses? I pay taxes too and so - very generously apparently - do you. But loopholes exist, so we have the likes of Amazon making massive profits during covid but paying comparatively little in taxes to HMG. How does that fit in with your thinking? I’m all in favour of profits being made because, as you say, that should lead to bigger tax incomes, but it doesn’t always, does it? All I’m asking for is a level playing-field but some businesses get away with murder. Behind all this is the principle of fairness and that’s what drives my politics.

    Anyway, how does this second income tax payment work. Do you send them a cheque?

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