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    Advice On Dog Breeders?

    We want to get our first ever dog but we’re aware of the pitfalls of buying from unscrupulous people.

    We’re looking for a King Charles Spaniel and I wondered if any of you owned one or could recommend a breeder you know of?

    I don’t mind travelling a considerable distance to get the right opportunity.

    Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    We want to get our first ever dog but we’re aware of the pitfalls of buying from unscrupulous people.

    We’re looking for a King Charles Spaniel and I wondered if any of you owned one or could recommend a breeder you know of?

    I don’t mind travelling a considerable distance to get the right opportunity.

    Thanks a lot.


    Make sure Mick a good dog breeder is Kennel Club Registered! You should check out a breeder in terms of where they are selling the pups - how long they have lived there - reviews or feedback from other owners. Any good breeder will check you out that’s for sure too. Our breeder was 2.5 hours away so look all over the country as important,

    A good breeder will also take a deposit and right up until the last minute will return the deposit to you if you change your mind. A good breeder will also have a stipulation that you can’t sell the pup onwards and return it back if your circumstances change.

    Our breeder loves her dogs just as much as people and all the people who have purchased a pup are in a Facebook group. We even take our pup back to the breeder when we are on holidays as we would not put her in a kennel and she can be with her mum and dad.

    Take out a first class insurance plan too - not cheap but for peace of mind and get the chip done.

    Would not deviate from a Kennel Club registered breeder though! For me that’s really essential!!

    We have a gorgeous golden retriever and she’s like a full member of the family. As I have said to my daughter - only take a dog if you can walk them three times a day and one partner at least does not work!

    For me getting a dog and working or putting a dog in a cage is cruel! Would a human be put in a cage? No! Even as a pup these cages restrict movement so I personally dislike them.

    Train a pup from day one - that’s essential especially on recall!
    Last edited by baggieal; 05-04-2021 at 04:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Make sure Mick a good dog breeder is Kennel Club Registered! You should check out a breeder in terms of where they are selling the pups - how long they have lived there - reviews or feedback from other owners. Any good breeder will check you out that’s for sure too. Our breeder was 2.5 hours away so look all over the country as important,

    A good breeder will also take a deposit and right up until the last minute will return the deposit to you if you change your mind. A good breeder will also have a stipulation that you can’t sell the pup onwards and return it back if your circumstances change.

    Our breeder loves her dogs just as much as people and all the people who have purchased a pup are in a Facebook group. We even take our pup back to the breeder when we are on holidays as we would not put her in a kennel and she can be with her mum and dad.

    Take out a first class insurance plan too - not cheap but for peace of mind and get the chip done.

    Would not deviate from a Kennel Club registered breeder though! For me that’s really essential!!

    We have a gorgeous golden retriever and she’s like a full member of the family. As I have said to my daughter - only take a dog if you can walk them three times a day and one partner at least does not work!

    For me getting a dog and working or putting a dog in a cage is cruel! Would a human be put in a cage? No! Even as a pup these cages restrict movement so I personally dislike them.

    Train a pup from day one - that’s essential especially on recall!
    Excellent advice, but I think you are wrong about crate training. All my dogs, over the years, have always had their own safe space to go to when they feel the need. A young pup has been taken from it's pack, and needs to know it can escape from all the attention that will undoubtedly come it's way. I've never closed the cage door or used it as a punishment. It's the dogs special place (and we all need one of those), and a dog has no conception of what our definition of cruelty is, so I never anthropomorphise. A dog is a wolf in disguise, so just be a kind Alpha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titchfieldbaggie View Post
    Excellent advice, but I think you are wrong about crate training. All my dogs, over the years, have always had their own safe space to go to when they feel the need. A young pup has been taken from it's pack, and needs to know it can escape from all the attention that will undoubtedly come it's way. I've never closed the cage door or used it as a punishment. It's the dogs special place (and we all need one of those), and a dog has no conception of what our definition of cruelty is, so I never anthropomorphise. A dog is a wolf in disguise, so just be a kind Alpha.
    Great word ‘anthropomorphise’ Titchfield buddy ! Had to look it up and can’t wait to use it !

    Apologies for moving off the post topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titchfieldbaggie View Post
    Excellent advice, but I think you are wrong about crate training. All my dogs, over the years, have always had their own safe space to go to when they feel the need. A young pup has been taken from it's pack, and needs to know it can escape from all the attention that will undoubtedly come it's way. I've never closed the cage door or used it as a punishment. It's the dogs special place (and we all need one of those), and a dog has no conception of what our definition of cruelty is, so I never anthropomorphise. A dog is a wolf in disguise, so just be a kind Alpha.

    Titchfield - you have said you keep the door open and if it works for you then great!

    I went to a young couples house on business and they had a gorgeous spaniel and he was in the crate with the door closed. They said to me when they are working from home the dog is in the crate with the door closed apart from when they take it for walks. The poor f uckin thing could hardly move as there was no room and was limping - I had a good mind to report them!! If the cage is open and a dog goes in there of their own free will then that’s great otherwise for me it’s cruel with the door locked. This couple simply did not want to be disturbed when working from home so the easiest thing was to shove the poor thing in the cage. They could have left the dog in the kitchen with the door closed but oh no!

    The advice I gave my daughter was - if you are working in an office and can’t walk the dog 2 or 3 times a day - don’t get one as it’s cruel!

    Our dog loves her large dog mat and she’s happy to settle down from 7pm to 7am because she’s shattered from long lengthy walks. Dogs as you know need lots of exercise.

    The only time you have to be cruel in a nice way is not to over feed as fat or podgy dogs will have health issues. I am the worst when our golden retriever looks at me with those big eyes and dribbling!

    But dogs are the best and most loyal friends in the world! We love ours!
    Last edited by baggieal; 06-04-2021 at 05:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Titchfield - you have said you keep the door open and if it works for you then great!

    I went to a young couples house on business and they had a gorgeous spaniel and he was in the crate with the door closed. They said to me when they are working from home the dog is in the crate with the door closed apart from when they take it for walks. The poor f uckin thing could hardly move as there was no room and was limping - I had a good mind to report them!! If the cage is open and a dog goes in there of their own free will then that’s great otherwise for me it’s cruel with the door locked. This couple simply did not want to be disturbed when working from home so the easiest thing was to shove the poor thing in the cage. They could have left the dog in the kitchen with the door closed but oh no!

    The advice I gave my daughter was - if you are working in an office and can’t walk the dog 2 or 3 times a day - don’t get one as it’s cruel!

    Our dog loves her large dog mat and she’s happy to settle down from 7pm to 7am because she’s shattered from long lengthy walks. Dogs as you know need lots of exercise.

    The only time you have to be cruel in a nice way is not to over feed as fat or podgy dogs will have health issues. I am the worst when our golden retriever looks at me with those big eyes and dribbling!

    But dogs are the best and most loyal friends in the world! We love ours!
    Spot on, fella

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    Mick, I didn’t want a dog, was always a cat person but was badgered into it by my wife and daughter, honestly they are a real joy and ours is now my best mate! We got ours from a family pet that had puppies after having first researched the breed that was best for us, make sure you go and see the puppies when they are young and check the mum and general surroundings, knowing you, you will be able to sniff a puppy farm or ‘wrong un’ out, go back a couple of times prior to picking up the puppy and make sure to spend some decent time with them each time, I know lots of folks who have King Charles spaniels and they love them, so good luck and if my experience is anything to go by you will have a new and always cheerful family member soon!

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    King Charles Spaniels are such lovely lovely dogs, but do have more than their fair share of health issues sadly.

    Do make sure the mom and dad have have both have current board certified cardiologists clearance for heart disease if possible as this is one of their main problems.

    Get pet insurance straight away, make sure it is Cover for life, that’s really important, and for as much cover as you can afford, and never change insurance companies.

    The puppy should be microchipped with the breeder before they come to you.

    Mick, I hope you have so much fun with your new best friend.

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    I was a dog breeder for over 15 years Mick and there are two things which are key to not getting ripped off. Firstly, make sure you see the mother with the pups and secondly, make sure you pick up the pup yourself from the establishment where they were born. Never let the breeder bring the pup to you.

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    All great advice thanks lads thank you.

    Just need a good breeder recommendation.

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