Euro Super League Anyone ?

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Villa fan here. Can we get back to hating each other again now please?

Don’t worry we never stopped when it comes to your manager and assistant manager

[Monaco_Totty]

Villa fan here. Can we get back to hating each other again now please?

Only one team in Birmingham !

[spaldy]

Villa fan here. Can we get back to hating each other again now please?

that is good! thanks for the chuckle.

[Billyni]

This hasn't gone away you know.
Once more people are getting their nests feathered out of it, it will re emerge.
Imagine for example, if sky were promoting it. Those pundits who are shooting it down now, would become little lap-dogs again and it will become the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[WTF11]

This hasn't gone away you know.
Once more people are getting their nests feathered out of it, it will re emerge.
Imagine for example, if sky were promoting it. Those pundits who are shooting it down now, would become little lap-dogs again and it will become the greatest thing since sliced bread.

In fairness (at least to Neville and Carragher), they have said that the issues that led to the ESL proposals haven't gone away and Neville we know has been working on independent monitoring/approval of club ownership.

Think the positives from this have been the strength and unanimity of fans/supporter response and the willingness of coaches and players of the clubs to voice their unequivocal opposition when "throwing the owners under a bus" as Neville put it.

[norfolk white]

Not a supporter of this super league, but go back 30 years, isn't this exactly what sky done to the football league, blew them out of the water with obscene money, created a new league irrespective of anyone else, the European Cup was then changed to the champions league (basically a super European league) to create more revenue, as is the europa league....if the super league had gone ahead sky, who were the big fish, would have become the minnows, as would uefa.....woe betide that happening.

[WTF11]

Not a supporter of this super league, but go back 30 years, isn't this exactly what sky done to the football league, blew them out of the water with obscene money, created a new league irrespective of anyone else, the European Cup was then changed to the champions league (basically a super European league) to create more revenue, as is the europa league....if the super league had gone ahead sky, who were the big fish, would have become the minnows, as would uefa.....woe betide that happening.

Completely different. No reduction in promotion/relegation, in fact quite the opposite. All clubs apart from those in the Premiership were left unchanged, and still with the opportunity to compete in the same cup competitions as before (FA/EFL cups etc). European Cup = Champions League, not too bothered about the change of name, nor membership, as long as all clubs were still included in the pyramid, which they were (and without wanting to get my tin hat on, Sky did inject a lot of money into a game that wasn't exactly well-financed at the time) and very much NO, the Champions League is most certainly NOT capable of being equated with the ESL which was going to be a closed shop, with NO promotion or relegation, and would kill the league, cup and other European competitions, not the same thing at all. As for the results of the ESL on Sky and UEFA, that would be the least of the problems had it gone ahead.

[Monaco_Totty]

Let's hope a better fairer prospect will be the outcome and not just a slot filler for TV pundits to yap about.For me it cannot be the Premier League’s sole responsibility to sort out all the latest issues arising.The Government itself needs to take responsibility of clubs in many embattled towns in parts of the country which have suffered hardships in recent decades as such places will lose their local focal point of even having a football club,particularly clubs that rely most heavily on matchday income to survive that are now at serious risk of going under like York City in my old town.

It's not just in the UK clubs struggle but clubs throughout Europe that fans are worried about and rightly have been for quite a while as I know from Mums filed correspondence.

As without PL riches where would Leeds be.As the Leeds Evening Post stated today the unity that swelled this week with various supporters Trusts working together and fans of many clubs putting tribal feelings and rivalries aside cannot be allowed to dissipate until the money men regroup and ride again.Football cannot go back to sleep.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....notice-3209334

As for Europe's fan views - https://www.fanseurope.org/en/news/n...e-debacle.html

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Let's hope a better fairer prospect will be the outcome and not just a slot filler for TV pundits to yap about.For me it cannot be the Premier League’s sole responsibility to sort out all the latest issues arising.The Government itself needs to take responsibility of clubs in many embattled towns in parts of the country which have suffered hardships in recent decades as such places will lose their local focal point of even having a football club,particularly clubs that rely most heavily on matchday income to survive that are now at serious risk of going under like York City in my old town.

It's not just in the UK clubs struggle but clubs throughout Europe that fans are worried about and rightly have been for quite a while as I know from Mums filed correspondence.

As without PL riches where would Leeds be.As the Leeds Evening Post stated today the unity that swelled this week with various supporters Trusts working together and fans of many clubs putting tribal feelings and rivalries aside cannot be allowed to dissipate until the money men regroup and ride again.Football cannot go back to sleep.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....notice-3209334

As for Europe's fan views - https://www.fanseurope.org/en/news/n...e-debacle.html

Until the clubs see economic sense then there will always be problems.

Whilst some clubs like MAn City and PSG are heavily funded by rich sovereign states then other clubs are likely to have to take crazy gambles to succeed.

I suspect salary caps are the only logical way forward.

[WTF11]

Let's hope a better fairer prospect will be the outcome and not just a slot filler for TV pundits to yap about.For me it cannot be the Premier League’s sole responsibility to sort out all the latest issues arising.The Government itself needs to take responsibility of clubs in many embattled towns in parts of the country which have suffered hardships in recent decades as such places will lose their local focal point of even having a football club,particularly clubs that rely most heavily on matchday income to survive that are now at serious risk of going under like York City in my old town.

It's not just in the UK clubs struggle but clubs throughout Europe that fans are worried about and rightly have been for quite a while as I know from Mums filed correspondence.

As without PL riches where would Leeds be.As the Leeds Evening Post stated today the unity that swelled this week with various supporters Trusts working together and fans of many clubs putting tribal feelings and rivalries aside cannot be allowed to dissipate until the money men regroup and ride again.Football cannot go back to sleep.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....notice-3209334

As for Europe's fan views - https://www.fanseurope.org/en/news/n...e-debacle.html

Not disagreeing with any of the sentiments regarding how the clubs in lower leagues are struggling, but.........

HM Government CANNOT resolve this, as the problem (as you rightly point out) extends beyond the bounds of HM government purview/responsibility. It CAN act in concert with other governments (and not just those in the EU, this is a global problem that requires global initiatives and global resolution, because if not globally resolved, another ESL (or Pacific Rim Super League, or East Asia Super League, or Pan-African Super League etc etc etc ad nauseam)), however HMG or other governments can only act at the legislative level, not the level at which FIFA, UEFA and other football governing bodies are able to be effective.

Absolutely agree with the sentiment that "football cannot go back to sleep" (love that phraseology, you should copywright and promote it!), but without a real triumverate, Clubs, Football governing bodies and governments, with supporter agitation and "disruption" as the force that keeps them all "honest", and with a real will to make a better future for football at ALL levels, that is what will happen.