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Thread: Champions League final lication

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    Champions League final lication

    So, we have the best Covid situation in Europe (including Portugal), and we (apparently) weren't willing to provide quarantine exceptions to the 3000 "stakeholders" (aka freeloaders), who UEFA want to bring along for the ride, so Portugal (who ARE (apparently) willing to provide the exemptions), appear to be UEFAs preferred venue, as Portugal are on the UK green list so fans can travel, but........

    3000 exemptions given to people from anywhere and everywhere, and mixing with thousands of fans from the UK, who WONT need to quarantine or test when they come back home. Lunacy, all in the name of giving UEFA freeloaders seats at the final they obviously won't be paying for and risking the health and wellbeing of supporters and non-football folks in the UK.

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    Madness being allowed to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norfolk white View Post
    Madness being allowed to happen.
    "Allowed" would be half-way acceptable (enabling disadvantaged to participate etc,,), this isn't being "allowed", it's being "paid for" and those who pay the highest price are likely to be UK citizens (supporters or not), and yet not a word from the "meedja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by norfolk white View Post
    Madness being allowed to happen.
    Agreed. This is absolute lunacy. How much money can Istanbul, Turkey recoup from this match after having it taken away last year? Next to nothing. So why have it there?

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    Nothing establishes reasserting your authority and dominance as a European football adminstrator than having your flagship event in some 3rd world hell hole of a city that was a last important 300 years before the new world was discovered.

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    "like" Spaldy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Nothing establishes reasserting your authority and dominance as a European football adminstrator than having your flagship event in some 3rd world hell hole of a city that was a last important 300 years before the new world was discovered.
    That's just it though, they have decided it WON'T be in Istanbul, because fans couldn't travel there, WERE going to give it to Wembley, but WON'T because the UK government (rightly IMHO), won't allow the 3000 exemptions UEFA want (but Portugal will (apparently)).

    Hence why it looks like we will have thousands of UK fans mixing with who knows what from who knows where and under no quarantine restrictions when they get back to the UK. MADNESS.

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    Does it really matter? Is there anyway in the modern world to isolate a country or group of people to the point that a variant of the virus is not exposed to the rest of the world? Maybe an island like NZ or the Galapogos. Beyond that it's just an exercise in making people feel "safe and in control".

    The vaccinations may work as well as people getting exposed and developing the antibodies.

    It's obviously an engineered virus. The gain of function work that was done on it was extremely effective. It's purely Aerosol (most effective way to spread) and it mutates at a pace unheard of in Nature. it also kills off certain ethnic groups (not Chinese of course), diabetics and the elderly at a much higher pace than normally occurs in nature (viruses are not normally that specific). it has almost no lethality or long term effects on pre puberty children (also not normal for a virus). it's a masterpiece of genetic engineering if you goal is to wipe out elderly, high cost medical citizens and spare the youth that are going to contrbibute to military and tax payments.

    it may or may never come out but more and more viralogists are starting to believe that this is not naturally occurring.

    either way, you can't shut the world down in perpetuity. hope that vaccinations and people with antibodies offset the damage done by a bioengineered weapon.

    I'm sure it's just coincidence that not a single high ranking member of the CCP cabinet died of Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Does it really matter? Is there anyway in the modern world to isolate a country or group of people to the point that a variant of the virus is not exposed to the rest of the world? Maybe an island like NZ or the Galapogos. Beyond that it's just an exercise in making people feel "safe and in control".

    The vaccinations may work as well as people getting exposed and developing the antibodies.

    It's obviously an engineered virus. The gain of function work that was done on it was extremely effective. It's purely Aerosol (most effective way to spread) and it mutates at a pace unheard of in Nature. it also kills off certain ethnic groups (not Chinese of course), diabetics and the elderly at a much higher pace than normally occurs in nature (viruses are not normally that specific). it has almost no lethality or long term effects on pre puberty children (also not normal for a virus). it's a masterpiece of genetic engineering if you goal is to wipe out elderly, high cost medical citizens and spare the youth that are going to contrbibute to military and tax payments.

    it may or may never come out but more and more viralogists are starting to believe that this is not naturally occurring.

    either way, you can't shut the world down in perpetuity. hope that vaccinations and people with antibodies offset the damage done by a bioengineered weapon.

    I'm sure it's just coincidence that not a single high ranking member of the CCP cabinet died of Covid.
    Yes, it matters. The UK has (at the moment) Covid figures for infections, hospitalisations and deaths that are comparable with the best it was in August last year, and entirely in line with the UK governments rouad map to remove lock down, which EVERYONE wants. The trial events at Wembley last week, and the Brits yesterday, are all about ensuring that the data supports further removal of restrictions, and a return (IN THE UK) to something more like normal. All the science dictates that we move cautiously, but there have to be "test" events, and these are under monitored conditions, where participants have to show a negative test, even if social distancing and/or masks etc are then no longer required (for the event).

    The reason the UK is doing so well is that we have coupled the lockdown with a hugely effective vaccination programme AND mandatory quarantine (at last) for people entering the UK from any country not on the HMG green list (Portugal is one of those on the green list). What UEFA will do, (if Portugal get the final) will be to introduce around 3000 people who have not necessarily been tested or vaccinated, and have no requirement to quarantine going in or out of Portugal, and have them potentially mixing with thousands of fans (primarily) from the UK who would HAVE to have quarantined on their way back into the UK if Portugal wasn't on that green list. So UEFA, with the connivance of the Portuguese authorities (and HMG if they do nothing about the green list status given the risk these 3000 exemptions represent), will put at risk the UKs progress towards removing lockdown restrictions, simply to grease the palms of these freeloaders.

    Sorry to disagree, but the UK HAS been successful (albeit that its taken some time!) both in vaccination and making lockdown "work" as much as it ever could. We will see pubs and restaurants opening for indoors trade for the first time in five months, next Monday, public events are to be allowed, people can f00king hug again!!!, and all because we have low infection rates (and we know there are variants around, but they aren't affecting the infection ratio too much), and equally low hospitalisation and death rates to go with that.

    Whether Covid was manufactured or not or the other matters you refer to isn't the point of this thread. It's a footballing matter, and a critique of the willingness of a key footballing authority to put lives at risk, just to keep the great and the good happy, madness and criminal.

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    I'm curious to how the "science" explains states in the US like Florida and Texas? Both are almost wide open with full attendance, some of the oldest populations in the America's and no mask or social distance mandates. They get visitors for all over the world (especially Florida with mickey mouse land and all of the visitors from around the world including china) and they have one of the lowest hospitalization and death rates. This in spite of the fact that a good majority of the population has at least one or more of the co- mordidity factors. They have the largest population of old people in the US.

    They do have a high vaccination rate.

    Perhaps, with age comes wisdom. Maybe they realize that hiding in your basement, wearing masks and avoiding all people isn't the way to beat this disease. You have to get on with life.

    This virus and the dozens of it's variants isn't going away any more than the common cold is.

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