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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
    and Btw....how many Nuke warheads does Israel have, current stockpile ?
    I don't know the answer to that, perhaps Balan does, but I would imagine it's far more than they need.

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    Biden failed the Israel-Palestinian rocket and riot test - analysis
    Biden’s mistakes began before the first rocket was fired: US Mideast policy expert

    The policies of the Biden administration have inadvertently contributed to the lethal round of hostilities in Israel and Gaza, some Israeli analysts claimed on Wednesday.
    The escalation “is a test and [US President Joe Biden] has failed,” said Prof. Eytan Gilboa, an expert on US policy in the Middle East at Bar-Ilan University.

    Back in February, Biden lifted the designation of the Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen as a global terrorist organization. Analysts said that the president believed the move would reduce violence in Yemen and against Saudi Arabia, but it has produced the opposite result.

    “If you are a terrorist organization, and you don’t do anything and sanctions are lifted against you, this means you can do whatever you want,” Gilboa said. “Other terrorist organizations in the Middle East, like Hamas, look at this and say, ‘This is what the US is doing? Very good. We can exploit it.’”
    In April, Biden announced that America would restore some $235 million in aid to the Palestinians that had been withdrawn by former President Donald Trump. About two-thirds of the money is being given to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), which Trump cut off in 2018 because of its ties to terrorism.
    “Hamas and Islamic Jihad were looking and saying to themselves that if the US restored this aid unconditionally, then we can do whatever we want,” Gilboa explained.
    Finally, that same month, the US lifted sanctions on International Criminal Court prosecutor Fatou Bensouda, also without any conditions.
    Amid the violence, the administration has likewise shown a lack of understanding of the situation, including falsely equating Israel with Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
    Hamas and Islamic Jihad have been inciting violence and terrorism for weeks inside Israel and the Palestinian territories, and specifically on the Temple Mount, in response to a decision by the Palestinian Authority to cancel the elections that Hamas hoped to win. Their goal is to take over the West Bank and turn it into another Gaza, Gilboa said.
    “The US is strengthening terrorist organizations who are against peace,” he said.

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    how many Nuke warheads does Israel have, current stockpile ?

    I have no idea but have heard 200, but is someone telling porkies?

    Google: Estimates of Israel's stockpile range between 80 and 400 nuclear warheads, and the country is believed to possess the ability to deliver them in several methods, including by aircraft; as submarine-launched cruise missiles; and the Jericho series of intermediate to intercontinental range ballistic missiles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Biden failed the Israel-Palestinian rocket and riot test - analysis
    Biden’s mistakes began before the first rocket was fired: US Mideast policy expert

    The policies of the Biden administration have inadvertently contributed to the lethal round of hostilities in Israel and Gaza, some Israeli analysts claimed on Wednesday.
    The escalation “is a test and [US President Joe Biden] has failed,” said Prof. Eytan Gilboa, an expert on US policy in the Middle East at Bar-Ilan University.

    Back in February, Biden lifted the designation of the Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen as a global terrorist organization. Analysts said that the president believed the move would reduce violence in Yemen and against Saudi Arabia, but it has produced the opposite result.

    “If you are a terrorist organization, and you don’t do anything and sanctions are lifted against you, this means you can do whatever you want,” Gilboa said. “Other terrorist organizations in the Middle East, like Hamas, look at this and say, ‘This is what the US is doing? Very good. We can exploit it.’”
    In April, Biden announced that America would restore some $235 million in aid to the Palestinians that had been withdrawn by former President Donald Trump. About two-thirds of the money is being given to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), which Trump cut off in 2018 because of its ties to terrorism.
    “Hamas and Islamic Jihad were looking and saying to themselves that if the US restored this aid unconditionally, then we can do whatever we want,” Gilboa explained.
    Finally, that same month, the US lifted sanctions on International Criminal Court prosecutor Fatou Bensouda, also without any conditions.
    Amid the violence, the administration has likewise shown a lack of understanding of the situation, including falsely equating Israel with Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
    Hamas and Islamic Jihad have been inciting violence and terrorism for weeks inside Israel and the Palestinian territories, and specifically on the Temple Mount, in response to a decision by the Palestinian Authority to cancel the elections that Hamas hoped to win. Their goal is to take over the West Bank and turn it into another Gaza, Gilboa said.
    “The US is strengthening terrorist organizations who are against peace,” he said.
    It was predicted Balan, this is what you get when a braindead Lefty runs America.

  5. #35
    Biden obviously does not fit into your Hitlerian/Trump paradigm sinkov.

    A bit sad really.

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    Trump turned the money tap off to Iran, Biden has turned it back on, so now they can fund the attacks on Israel again. Nothing to do with paradigms, not rocket science, with Trump in the White House they were very afraid of the repercussions if they gave the green light to attacks on Israel, they are not in the least concerned about a braindead Lefty in the White House.

    So here we are again, the Middle East in flames again and the poor buggers in Gaza bearing the brunt again, didn't take long did it, how long has Trump been gone ? All so very, very predictable.

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    Yes, my son has just returned from a six month unaccompanied tour in the Middle East.Obviously, he can't say much, however, he tells me that what he has witnessed and is also aware of in ongoing developments could be quite hairy.
    The Middle East was always the scenario in any exercises in which we took part in the forces.
    Who is pulling all the strings and who has the real control? WHo knows?

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Trump turned the money tap off to Iran, Biden has turned it back on, so now they can fund the attacks on Israel again. Nothing to do with paradigms, not rocket science, with Trump in the White House they were very afraid of the repercussions if they gave the green light to attacks on Israel, they are not in the least concerned about a braindead Lefty in the White House.

    So here we are again, the Middle East in flames again and the poor buggers in Gaza bearing the brunt again, didn't take long did it, how long has Trump been gone ? All so very, very predictable.
    This all started because the Israeli police decided to lob stun grenades into a mosque and accentuated the crisis because Jews in East Jerusalem want to evict Palestinians from their homes because the Old Testament says the land belongs to Israel.

    How this is Joe Biden's fault is anybody's guess?

    If Trump had left Jerusalem to the Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs to sort out instead of siding with the obnoxious Netanyahu this $hit might not be happening.

    Iran are unquestionably sending aid for Hamas missiles. Not doing much good though 200 have misfired, have not left Gaza and are doing the IDF's job for them by killing the missile projectors in misfire ignitions.

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    This all started because the Israeli police decided to lob stun grenades into a mosque. Look at this photo it shows the rioters OUTSIDE the mosque.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/442...usalem-clashes
    The sentence says, (of course take into account I was not there, but if you know something else?)

    Most were injured at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, where Israeli police fired rubber bullets and stun grenades as Palestinians threw stones and bottles. ) but then ....as Palestinians threw stones and bottles!

    I would take this as, 'there were stones and bottles, inside the Al-Aqsa Mosque, there must have been in order that the Palestinians could throw stones and bottles at the Israeli police. (actually its not the police ,these where the 'Border guards!')

    Israeli Police said they had used force to "restore order" due to the "rioting of thousands of worshippers" after evening prayers.
    (after evening prayers!)

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Trump turned the money tap off to Iran, Biden has turned it back on, so now they can fund the attacks on Israel again. Nothing to do with paradigms, not rocket science, with Trump in the White House they were very afraid of the repercussions if they gave the green light to attacks on Israel, they are not in the least concerned about a braindead Lefty in the White House.

    So here we are again, the Middle East in flames again and the poor buggers in Gaza bearing the brunt again, didn't take long did it, how long has Trump been gone ? All so very, very predictable.
    Trump said this would happen.He also said there would be massive inflation which has arrived in the USA.They are queueing for petrol all down the east coast like Venezuela.Bidet has not a clue what is happening around him because he is in advanced senility.
    Waiting for the Arizona forensic recount....

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