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  1. #241
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    Our BT : Yes, he is fishing again ,he knows the truth ,but Gentlemen if you were in Baw'ton, dismal, drab etc. I am sure you would have the same 'frame of mind' desperate, ambitious for 'intellectual satisfaction. I can not ask anybody to go there and see for themselves. If, If am correct, even the 'death plague' was to scared to go there !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    ""The IDF took substantial precautions to minimize harm to civilians in Gaza and made extensive efforts to get humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians.
    The IDF made extensive efforts to verify and confirm that their targets were indeed military objectives. Yet, the Hamas' extensive use of civilians and civilian facilities as human shields made it impossible to completely avoid unintentional harm."


    Yes, from my quite extensive reading on this subject from numerous different sources, I would say the above is 100% accurate.
    Depends on which bit of "extensive reading" you are reading from sinkov...

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east...estine/2280072

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    The British soldier who won't stop defending Israel

    https://www.thejc.com/news/features/...srael-1.495598

    “British soldiers and officers had the utmost respect and admiration for the IDF, and the high-profile operations which it carried out”.
    That admiration, says Kemp, was for a country “which could fight against such tough odds, beat the enemy and win”. Wryly, he adds that Israel was also “lucky to have the enemy it has”.

    “I know how much Israel has helped us, including me personally, on helping with intelligence to prevent terror attacks. My support and admiration for Israel is the right thing to do.”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...fense-experts/

    Hezbollah is believed to possess between 100,000 and 150,000 projectiles, most of them short range. Israeli officials assess that in a future war, the terrorist group would be able to sustain a firing rate of over 1,000 missiles per day.

    The HLMG said that Hezbollah “transformed almost every Shiite village in the country’s south into a military asset.”

    Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah has also threatened that the terrorist group would not be fighting alone, but would have the support of Iran-backed militias in Syria and other fighters from across the Middle East. This which would force the Israeli army to fight on two fronts or even more, if Hamas in Gaza joins in the conflict as well.

    The international force is generally seen by Israel to be feckless and incapable, or at least unwilling, to take serious action against Hezbollah’s force build-up, while in Lebanon the group is perceived by many as being a shill for the IDF.

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    It used to be that only the losers in war committed atrocities, now we know that wasn't the case. Modern media and accountability now shows the real affect of war on innocent citizens which is why the main protagonists now try to minimalize "collateral damage" with debatable success. Terrorist organisations don't have this restraint when they strike but they will express outrage when their targets retaliate. Such is modern urban warfare. There are no winners, only innocent bystanders being killed and maimed due to political and religious madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Depends on which bit of "extensive reading" you are reading from sinkov...

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east...estine/2280072
    Sorry BT, when I searched for independent, unbiased reporting on the Palestinian situation, I forgot all about Turkey. My bad.

  6. #246
    You need to get a broader perspective mon ami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    You need to get a broader perspective mon ami.
    If I want to read drivel about the situation BT, I don't need to trawl through Turkish media, the BBC and Grauniad do the job just fine.

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    If I want to read drivel about the situation BT, I don't need to trawl through Turkish media, the BBC and Grauniad do the job just fine.
    One man's drivel is another man's truth mon ami.

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    BT Just so that you know.

    Shin Bet reports dramatic increase in West Bank attacks on Israelis
    There have been close to 600 attacks in the West Bank over the past month, and 34 Palestinians have been killed in the same amount of time.
    According to data released by the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), there were 592 attacks in the West Bank and another 178 in Jerusalem in the month of May, compared to a total of 104 in April (80 in the West Bank and 24 in Jerusalem). The May attacks included 401 fire bombings, 33 pipe bombs, 87 arson attacks, 47 small-arms fire, two grenade attacks, one vehicular attack and others.

    Despite the challenges, the great majority of attacks have been thwarted by security forces. But the high number of thwarted attacks also indicate that the flames of violence are growing in the West Bank.
    SO WHAT’S happening?
    With the cancellation of the May Palestinian elections in late April, the public has lost all faith in their leaders who they say have abandoned the cause a long time ago. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, they say, has remained silent about the beating of protesters and worshipers by Israel.

  10. #250
    It's not really a "war" is it Balan?

    People are now starting to see it for what it really is, apartheid and oppression.

    https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/06/why...inst-apartheid

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