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Thread: Derby's Best English Line-Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdiSalisbury View Post
    If I go by 11 I've seen in the flesh (and remember), I'd probably go with from mid 90s onwards:

    Taylor

    C Powell Keogh Barker Cole

    Ibe Osman Carsley Johnson

    Sturridge Howard

    That was actually really hard.
    you poor sod. Heros all, but 'my' team would beat yours 9 times out of 10. One of the benefits of being old I guess

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    Don't disagree. For every position, when I thought of the best players, they were all non-English! Wingers were especially hard to think of. I think my team would get promoted and stay up, but not much more.

    I should probably clarify that Johnson was of the Seth variety too!

    RA - I disagree that keepers like Shilton wouldn't cope today, clean sheets win titles, and the best managers would know how to use them. If it was all about footwork, we'd put midfielders in goal (not ours obviously!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdiSalisbury View Post
    If I go by 11 I've seen in the flesh (and remember), I'd probably go with from mid 90s onwards:

    Taylor

    C Powell Keogh Barker Cole

    Ibe Osman Carsley Johnson

    Sturridge Howard

    That was actually really hard.
    Ibe...controversial.
    Osman...good call...contender for all time XI.
    Carsley...Irish.

    Take your point Adi...but I think the demands on keepers have changed more than for any other player with recent(ish) rule changes.
    They now all seem to have to be at least 6’ 2’’ and have a good kicking game.

    P.S. Johnson? Presumably Tommy not Bradley.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 01-06-2021 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Ibe...controversial.
    Osman...good call...contender for all time XI.
    Carsley...Irish.

    Take your point Adi...but I think the demands on keepers have changed more than for any other player with recent(ish) rule changes.
    They now all seem to have to be at least 6’ 2’’ and have a good kicking game.

    P.S. Johnson? Presumably Tommy not Bradley.
    Bugger! Ok, Simpson in for Carsley.

    Ibe was desperation. Seth Johnson as he had a wonderful left foot and would be a gift for Howard's head.

    I'm not really one for comparing era's, ultimately the best players are the best. I can't see someone like David de Gea coping with pimple gloves and the ball bobbling at him on a mud pitch, or standing out as anything special in the days where there was no back pass rule - but then, I'm sure he would adapt, as the best do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdiSalisbury View Post
    Bugger! Ok, Simpson in for Carsley.

    Ibe was desperation. Seth Johnson as he had a wonderful left foot and would be a gift for Howard's head.

    I'm not really one for comparing era's, ultimately the best players are the best. I can't see someone like David de Gea coping with pimple gloves and the ball bobbling at him on a mud pitch, or standing out as anything special in the days where there was no back pass rule - but then, I'm sure he would adapt, as the best do.
    Ive had another think and maybe ‘your’ team would be closer to ‘my’ team than I first suggested. Skill wise there’s a gulf between them (sorry) but your team had one thing that counts for so much these days - match fitness/strength. No way was the fitness regime as fine tuned in the 70s as it’s become, and at your team’s game pace my team might run out of legs after 70 mins. Our 95/96 team were IMO unusually strong either through training methods or more likely good luck and I watched it muscle it’s way ahead in a number of games in that muddy winter when otherwise they were heading for defeat

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdiSalisbury View Post
    Bugger! Ok, Simpson in for Carsley.

    Ibe was desperation. Seth Johnson as he had a wonderful left foot and would be a gift for Howard's head.

    I'm not really one for comparing era's, ultimately the best players are the best. I can't see someone like David de Gea coping with pimple gloves and the ball bobbling at him on a mud pitch, or standing out as anything special in the days where there was no back pass rule - but then, I'm sure he would adapt, as the best do.
    Stand easy, Carsley only Irish by convenience, born in Brum, lives in Brum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    If I was voting for devotion to the cause not absolute skill he'd be top ten.

    Interesting about Boulton, he looked ridiculously small in the goal, but with the ball at knee height ping-ponging around the box or one on one with a striker his lack of height was actually an advantage
    Still a full 3 inches taller than his predecessor, Little Les.

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