Taking the Knee

[baggieal]

I don't think the national anthem should be played before domestic games, I don't see the point. As Yarm said, most of the players are foreign anyway at the top level. International games makes sense because there are national teams playing each other.

I want England to win in every sport, and I'm British but I don't subscribe to the thought that this is the best country in the world. I don't think I'd live here if my wife wasn't so keen to stay. There are socio-economic problems in this country, and much stems from the very top - who we elect every 4 years. But then every country has its issues I guess.

Also, I thought read somewhere that England players do donate their fees to charity? I think Gary Neville introduced it when he was playing. I stand corrected if I'm wrong.

You may wish to read his post again Al', he's basically in agreement with much of what you've just posted. Or you are with him rather. I think........ I'm only speed reading myself today to be honest so I may have misread the pair of you though 🤣 .

No we are in agreement with each other. The government have also said those who boo can not be condemned. It certainly does not mean anybody is racist but to some booing is stamping their feet in disapproval.

Who will be the first white guy who does not believe in this nonsense but certainly not racist especially perhaps with black team mates will have the bollox to stand up and not take the knee.

Where’s McClean he might do it?

[kettering_baggie]

The action is meant to be divisive, it is intended to inflame the situation not mend it and is a well used tool of the radical left, and it is succeeding. Spread hatred and distrust and then exploit the aftermath. Text book stuff.

Exactly, but why do so few see it? Society seems to be run by pressure groups with extreme agendas and nobody has the guts to stand up to them.

[WOODLANDSWOLF]

Exactly, but why do so few see it? Society seems to be run by pressure groups with extreme agendas and nobody has the guts to stand up to them.

Because if you do stand up they will destroy your reputation, destroy you financially and attack your family members in the same way. Again textbook modern so called socialist tactics. Some many examples here in the US.

[mickd1961]

Because if you do stand up they will destroy your reputation, destroy you financially and attack your family members in the same way. Again textbook modern so called socialist tactics. Some many examples here in the US.

Very true Woodlands.

We even have our very own brand new ultra Snowflake on here lecturing us middle aged white blokes as to the error of our ways.

No wonder so many people hide under the cloak of a username on forums these days, if you don’t you too easily become a target for these zealots.

[baggieal]

Very true Woodlands.

We even have our very own brand new ultra Snowflake on here lecturing us middle aged white blokes as to the error of our ways.

No wonder so many people hide under the cloak of a username on forums these days, if you don’t you too easily become a target for these zealots.

You got it Mick! Clue - he's on the thread of the ayslum seekers!

Setting up a username and not using it for eight years apart from the last couple of days - sounds dodgy like some of these illegals walking around Lye! Was Carolgees not from Lye?

[billsbest]

I fully support players taking the knee. It is about raising awareness of the need for equality.

[baggieal]

I fully support players taking the knee. It is about raising awareness of the need for equality.[/QUOTE




Everyone has different views which is great.

Even the Government have been sensible and said players should be respected if they want to take the knee but those who boo should not be condemned. Fair point!

[kettering_baggie]

I fully support players taking the knee. It is about raising awareness of the need for equality.

Absolute rubbish, more likely that you support fermenting racial trouble.

[mickd1961]

I fully support players taking the knee. It is about raising awareness of the need for equality.

So you’ll be fine about those who choose not to and those who turn their backs on it and boo it then?

If we’re talking about equality and fairness and a society open to all opinion?

[WBA123]

Good post Des and 100% agree. I agree with most of 123's latest post with the exception

"I don't respect people who boo because they are racist, these people need educating."


If people want to boo that's completely up to them. Many who boo are certainly not racist but sick of this complete bollox on what should be a day to enjoy sport!

Nobody has answered the question so please - a number of black players have stood up and decided NOT to take the knee! When a white player is the first to do this will nothing be said just like nothing is said to those black players? Can this question be answered or is it a case of they will be racist?

The point I was making was this,

If people boo because they don't want football to be political. Fair enough, they should have the right to protest it.

If people boo because they don't agree with the equality and anti discrimination message, then I don't respect those people. And those people should be educated in my opinion.

The problem is, how do you distinguish between them?