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[Trickytreesreds]

Been happening for a while though.
The BBC has Ethnic minorities make up 22% of actors and presenters while only representing 12% of British population
They even employ a box ticker guru (June Sarpong) on £270k P.A for a 3 day week?
Yet the main area they fall down is the disabled, where no one says a damned word about it.

[Andy_Faber]

Isn’t that ‘overrepresentation’ referred to in the article kind of inevitable given that racism and homophobia are two of the most significant issues we face in society today.
As a result they are both likely to be the topics of many dramas and soap operas alike.
Maybe the same survey would reach a similarly startling conclusion by suggesting that chefs, police officers and doctors are over represented on TV because cookery programmes, crime and hospital dramas all happen to be popular.

The BBC's head of Diversity doesn't agree with you. I did mention that I hoped the appointment of Tim Davie would see a recalibration, and June Sarpong (the box ticker mentioned by TTR) stated last year that 'the broadcaster is failing to forge a connection with white middle class Britons' due to its focus on the BAME community. Words are easy however, and she doean't appear to be making very good inroads

[ramAnag]

The BBC's head of Diversity doesn't agree with you. I did mention that I hoped the appointment of Tim Davie would see a recalibration, and June Sarpong (the box ticker mentioned by TTR) stated last year that 'the broadcaster is failing to forge a connection with white middle class Britons' due to its focus on the BAME community. Words are easy however, and she doean't appear to be making very good inroads

Okay...you increasingly seem to have a bit of a ‘chip’ about the poor old ‘white middle class Britons’ and how hard done to we are.
There are occasions when I (almost) ‘get’ where you’re coming from but, overall, as a ‘white, middle class’ (and late middle aged) ‘Briton’ I don’t share your anxiety and am actually quite happy for TV to concentrate on the needs and problems of those who, historically, haven’t shared in the benefits of our particular ‘power group’.

[Andy_Faber]

Okay...you increasingly seem to have a bit of a ‘chip’ about the poor old ‘white middle class Britons’ and how hard done to we are.
There are occasions when I (almost) ‘get’ where you’re coming from but, overall, as a ‘white, middle class’ (and late middle aged) ‘Briton’ I don’t share your anxiety and am actually quite happy for TV to concentrate on the needs and problems of those who, historically, haven’t shared in the benefits of our particular ‘power group’.

Well if you (almost) get where I'm coming from and I (almost) accept that some of the skew may arise from the urgent issues of the day, therein lies room for a more nuanced discussion some time

[Trickytreesreds]

RA the poor old white middle class/middle aged britain you talk about, pay a license fee as well
At the moment they are being shelved in favour of BAME/non hetro .

Now taking a ball out of your court, that's fine. But it's being done to an extreme and rammed down throats.
The word missing here, is equality. I absolutely endorse it, but not to have "my box" ignored/watered down for it.
That is what causes division in the first place, that they are supposed to be addressing.

It doesn't help either when whites are barred from recruitment.
So that chip you mention, isn't one of malice, its annoyance.
That's another reason license purchasing is tumbling.
Even though they are hounding pensioners again, their focus programme wise is elsewhere.
https://theoneworldnews.com/europe/b...nel-for-young/


The irony of all this is though. All the BBC bigwigs are white/male/middle, upper class, gammons

[ramAnag]

RA the poor old white middle class/middle aged britain you talk about, pay a license fee as well
At the moment they are being shelved in favour of BAME/non hetro .

Now taking a ball out of your court, that's fine. But it's being done to an extreme and rammed down throats.
The word missing here, is equality. I absolutely endorse it, but not to have "my box" ignored/watered down for it.
That is what causes division in the first place, that they are supposed to be addressing.

It doesn't help either when whites are barred from recruitment.
So that chip you mention, isn't one of malice, its annoyance.
That's another reason license purchasing is tumbling.
Even though they are hounding pensioners again, their focus programme wise is elsewhere.
https://theoneworldnews.com/europe/b...nel-for-young/


The irony of all this is though. All the BBC bigwigs are white/male/middle, upper class, gammons

Tricky, unlike you I pay a licence fee and I am two years into pensioner ‘status’. I have never felt ‘short changed’ in terms of what is available for me to watch via the BBC.
I have no idea what ‘programmes for pensioners’ even means. Should I have suddenly stopped watching programmes such as ‘Line of Duty’, ‘MOTD’, ‘Countryfile’, ‘BBC Breakfast’ and ‘Baptiste’ because I have gone past the age of 65? And I defy you to find any pro ‘BAME/anti hetro’ bias in those programmes. I’m also certain that if you Google a list of the BBC’s most popular programmes you’ll find plenty that appeal to pensioners.
As for the rest of your post...I’ve honestly little idea of what most of it means. You might be shocked that some programmes aimed more particularly at what you call a ‘BAME/non hetro’ audience usually appear in the 10.45 onwards slot on certain evenings, but looking at the balance overall, and going back to that aforementioned Google list, the balance is overwhelmingly white and probably hetero***ual although tbh, I may not have noticed something that, again unlike you, 0I’m not totally hung up on and preoccupied with.

[ramAnag]

Whenever you like, Andy...and as ‘nuanced’ as you like.

[swaledale]

The BBC's head of Diversity doesn't agree with you. I did mention that I hoped the appointment of Tim Davie would see a recalibration, and June Sarpong (the box ticker mentioned by TTR) stated last year that 'the broadcaster is failing to forge a connection with white middle class Britons' due to its focus on the BAME community. Words are easy however, and she doean't appear to be making very good inroads

Jeez, failing to connect with middle class white Briton's?? What utter bollox and more examples of this fake culture war the right is manufacturing knowing its pandering to the narrow minded fools - now that's why there is division in the world - those who are privileged feel threatened if their privilege is under threat.

Bleats by men - women are given a unfair advantage, too much focus on BAME community, or the LGBT community, FFS! Of course there needs to be a focus on groups that historically have been ignored, discriminated and disadvantaged, tough if the white gammons don't like it, but actually if it makes anyone uneasy that the person in a drama, or advert or presenting the news doesn't look like them, then they have the problem!

My worry about the BBC is that it seems over eager not to upset the government at the moment, very muted criticism of Johnson and this governments misdeeds, now that's something we should all be worried about - state influence and eventual control over broadcasting is a classic sign of authoritarianism and that never ends well.

[swaledale]

RA the poor old white middle class/middle aged britain you talk about, pay a license fee as well
At the moment they are being shelved in favour of BAME/non hetro .

Now taking a ball out of your court, that's fine. But it's being done to an extreme and rammed down throats.
The word missing here, is equality. I absolutely endorse it, but not to have "my box" ignored/watered down for it.
That is what causes division in the first place, that they are supposed to be addressing.

It doesn't help either when whites are barred from recruitment.
So that chip you mention, isn't one of malice, its annoyance.
That's another reason license purchasing is tumbling.
Even though they are hounding pensioners again, their focus programme wise is elsewhere.
https://theoneworldnews.com/europe/b...nel-for-young/


The irony of all this is though. All the BBC bigwigs are white/male/middle, upper class, gammons

The biggest irony is that most of them and certainly the head honchos are also Tories or right leaning politically!

By the way, whites are not barred from recruitment (its illegal) unless there is a specific reason as to why someone from a BAME background is required - another myth peddled by ignorant people, to go with you immigration lowers wages crap!

If you going to trot out right wing polemic, fed to you by the elite who know what dog whistles to blow for the credulous. please try some that can be substantiated with facts, rather than those that are myths in the so called victim white tossers!

[Andy_Faber]

Jeez, failing to connect with middle class white Briton's?? What utter bollox

But its not me saying it Swale, its the BBC Head of Cultural diversity, who is a) relatively young, b) female and c) black, and no doubt could intellectually have you as a light snack. Is she another we should add to your list of idiots who fail to agree with your narrow vision? The total continues to rise