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Thread: Reedtz Bros. statement re. Viborg FF

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    If the Reedtz brothers have been prevented from doing what they intended to do at Notts by the changes to the transfer rules since they signed the deal in August 2019, they'd have understandably become increasingly frustrated at largely being unable to apply their expertise, do what they do best and presumably, do what they'd most enjoy doing and gain the most satisfaction from.

    I haven't looked into the transfer rules, but if they are more relaxed for the EFL than the NL then it's only going to have added to their frustration that Notts have been unable to gain promotion. Perhaps the timing of the Viborg deal, so soon after we lost in the play offs, isn't entirely a coincidence. Obviously they'd have been looking into the club for some time, but maybe the Torquay loss encouraged them to press ahead with it.

    Whilst they are brothers, it isn't going to be the case that both have - or turn out to have - an absolutely equal amount of passion for the Viborg project. The same will apply to Notts. So it could be that we end up seeing one of the brothers spending more time on Notts and vice-versa. Maybe that would be for the best in the long run, otherwise it cannot be to our benefit if Viborg become more successful and that affords our owners greater pleasure and reward than what they are getting at Notts. Who takes priority if one is on the verge of success or relegation, whilst the other is mid-table hoping to build for next season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    If the Reedtz brothers have been prevented from doing what they intended to do at Notts by the changes to the transfer rules since they signed the deal in August 2019, they'd have understandably become increasingly frustrated at largely being unable to apply their expertise, do what they do best and presumably, do what they'd most enjoy doing and gain the most satisfaction from.

    I haven't looked into the transfer rules, but if they are more relaxed for the EFL than the NL then it's only going to have added to their frustration that Notts have been unable to gain promotion. Perhaps the timing of the Viborg deal, so soon after we lost in the play offs, isn't entirely a coincidence. Obviously they'd have been looking into the club for some time, but maybe the Torquay loss encouraged them to press ahead with it.

    Whilst they are brothers, it isn't going to be the case that both have - or turn out to have - an absolutely equal amount of passion for the Viborg project. The same will apply to Notts. So it could be that we end up seeing one of the brothers spending more time on Notts and vice-versa. Maybe that would be for the best in the long run, otherwise it cannot be to our benefit if Viborg become more successful and that affords our owners greater pleasure and reward than what they are getting at Notts. Who takes priority if one is on the verge of success or relegation, whilst the other is mid-table hoping to build for next season?
    The new rules are so tight that one promotion is basically irrelevant. We’d have to establish ourselves in the Championship really for foreign players to become a realistic possibility again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobncfc View Post
    The new rules are so tight that one promotion is basically irrelevant. We’d have to establish ourselves in the Championship really for foreign players to become a realistic possibility again.
    Do you know when the new rules came into effect and were these rule changes being talked about and considered at the time the Reedtz brothers took over Notts? I'm trying to establish just how much or how little the goalposts have been shifted since they arrived. The viborg deal would make a lot more sense, as far as they are concerned, if the NL terrain has totally changed in the two years since they've been here, assuming Danish league rules do allow them the freedom to do what the want to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    Do you know when the new rules came into effect and were these rule changes being talked about and considered at the time the Reedtz brothers took over Notts? I'm trying to establish just how much or how little the goalposts have been shifted since they arrived. The viborg deal would make a lot more sense, as far as they are concerned, if the NL terrain has totally changed in the two years since they've been here, assuming Danish league rules do allow them the freedom to do what the want to do.
    They changed when Brexit finally actually happened. Obviously that was already well in the pipeline when they took over so they’ll have known it was going to be far more restrictive, although maybe they’d have guessed/hoped it wouldn’t be quite as much as it is.

    They’re not even the lead investors in the Viborg deal, so they won’t have the same attachment to it (emotional as chairman/directors and financial with it being just their money on the line). Viborg also get crowds half the size of ours despite being in the Danish top flight and us in division five, it’s really not anything to worry about on that front.

    It wouldn’t be a huge surprise to see another club added if Viborg goes well as well - Belgium is very popular for this kind of owner for some reason.

    Ultimately their focus will remain on Notts, not particularly for any emotional reason, but because English football is where the money is. Even lower down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobncfc View Post
    They’re not even the lead investors in the Viborg deal, .
    That's the key phrase, "lead investors". What does that mean exactly?

    To quote "Inside Football"....
    "The new owners, a local investment group led by Jesper Søgaard and Christian Kirk Rasmussen, are buying 70% of the shares in the club."

    Reasonable to assume that also means Søgaard and Rasmussen are putting up the greater slice of that 70% (£4.8m), but we know from experience that the public face of a consortium isn't necessarily the chief investor. That's not to imply anything untoward is happening, but without knowing the details of the deal, we don't know how much or how little input the Reedrz bros are likely to have. Is there scope for them to buy up more shares?

    For now though, Notts are not up for sale, so it probably is an overreaction to have any immediate concerns. One to watch I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    Nah, far too obvious and connection.

    The mystery continues

    Do you know that for a fact? Or is it just another 'guess'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countygump View Post
    Do you know that for a fact? Or is it just another 'guess'.
    Not a guess Gumpy it's definitely our owners father, Peter

    I'm just light-heartedly taking the Mickey out of your earlier post, that's all.

    All our information regarding just how wealthy the Reedtz family are come from the internet innit.

    The mystery continues...... Although nowhere near the level of mystery attached to those Munto Millions or was it billions.

    This is more of a Scooby Doo level mystery rather than an Agatha Christie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    That's the key phrase, "lead investors". What does that mean exactly?

    To quote "Inside Football"....
    "The new owners, a local investment group led by Jesper Søgaard and Christian Kirk Rasmussen, are buying 70% of the shares in the club."

    Reasonable to assume that also means Søgaard and Rasmussen are putting up the greater slice of that 70% (£4.8m), but we know from experience that the public face of a consortium isn't necessarily the chief investor. That's not to imply anything untoward is happening, but without knowing the details of the deal, we don't know how much or how little input the Reedrz bros are likely to have. Is there scope for them to buy up more shares?

    For now though, Notts are not up for sale, so it probably is an overreaction to have any immediate concerns. One to watch I suppose.
    I think the obvious reading is that the other guys are bringing the money and the Reedtz brothers are bringing Football Radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    Not a guess Gumpy it's definitely our owners father, Peter

    I'm just light-heartedly taking the Mickey out of your earlier post, that's all.

    All our information regarding just how wealthy the Reedtz family are come from the internet innit.

    The mystery continues...... Although nowhere near the level of mystery attached to those Munto Millions or was it billions.

    This is more of a Scooby Doo level mystery rather than an Agatha Christie.

    Fair enough Laddo, if you have proof of it, I'll gladly take your word for it.


    Here's one for you.





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