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Thread: Pathway to first team coach at Dundee United Football Club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jam View Post
    I think the question is :If he wasn’t an Asghar would he be in the position he is in?
    This works both ways though. If he wasn't an Asghar, would his position be under such scrutiny? I think his position should be judged on merit not surname and whatever his role is he should be given the chance to show his capabilities, folk may well get a nice surprise.

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    You have to admit...it does have the feel that our club is participating in the "Make a Wish" charity!

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    If he does a good job, does anyone really care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weegiearab View Post
    You have to admit...it does have the feel that our club is participating in the "Make a Wish" charity!
    Adam's dying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    If he does a good job, does anyone really care?
    In my opinion, no. This is just another angle to attack those running the club. As I've said already, they got us up and kept us up so for me they have ticked all the boxes so far. Would people raise an eyebrow if a guy in their workplace helped his lad get a job? I doubt it, happens all the time. If he's qualified then let him prove himself, simples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    Another great thread 👍
    Cheers mate,its a rags to riches tale of how someone managed to go from a Motherwell high school as a qualified YOUTH coach to the first team at Tannadice.
    A truly remarkable achievement by Adam.I wonder how much his pay rise was?,doesna matter we are loaded.

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    If it is such a good thing for the running of the first team, why has there been no fanfare surrounding his promotion?

    Im trying to see all sides of this though, and i like how some offer comparisons to Ian Cathro who is one of the best no2s in the world, but a total failure at Hearts and i cannot even think of him taking the head coach role at United!

    A major concern in something i heard recently is the whole development of players for the future is also creating a breading ground for bringing coaches through the system, including promotion from within for the head coach role.

    Now i am willing to give this whole development system a chance, but success cannot be measured by those who were on the books when this regime came in, and there has to be a level of patience if its gonna be 5 years before we see the Ogrens getting their return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick A Saw View Post
    If it is such a good thing for the running of the first team, why has there been no fanfare surrounding his promotion?

    Im trying to see all sides of this though, and i like how some offer comparisons to Ian Cathro who is one of the best no2s in the world, but a total failure at Hearts and i cannot even think of him taking the head coach role at United!

    A major concern in something i heard recently is the whole development of players for the future is also creating a breading ground for bringing coaches through the system, including promotion from within for the head coach role.

    Now i am willing to give this whole development system a chance, but success cannot be measured by those who were on the books when this regime came in, and there has to be a level of patience if its gonna be 5 years before we see the Ogrens getting their return.
    We also tried throwing money at developing youngish players with a mind to selling them on to make millions under Thompson but that failed big time after spunking around £350k on Charlie Telfer and Robbie Muirhead. Thompson thought MacNamara had the midas touch after the Andy Robertson sale but obviously the man was clueless (MacNamara & Thompson)

    Ogren will have to get a massive slice of luck to get any of his money back through future player sales and I wish him well I really do but if thie model is so successful then why isn't everyone else doing it? Maybe they are to a lesser extent but we seem to be throwing an affy lot of money on one hell of a gamble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitfieldarab View Post
    We also tried throwing money at developing youngish players with a mind to selling them on to make millions under Thompson but that failed big time after spunking around £350k on Charlie Telfer and Robbie Muirhead. Thompson thought MacNamara had the midas touch after the Andy Robertson sale but obviously the man was clueless (MacNamara & Thompson)

    Ogren will have to get a massive slice of luck to get any of his money back through future player sales and I wish him well I really do but if thie model is so successful then why isn't everyone else doing it? Maybe they are to a lesser extent but we seem to be throwing an affy lot of money on one hell of a gamble.
    that post is so true .... and worrying. we know what happens when foreign owners wake up and smell the coffee (or sh!te as is SPFL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitfieldarab View Post
    We also tried throwing money at developing youngish players with a mind to selling them on to make millions under Thompson but that failed big time after spunking around £350k on Charlie Telfer and Robbie Muirhead. Thompson thought MacNamara had the midas touch after the Andy Robertson sale but obviously the man was clueless (MacNamara & Thompson)
    Yes the Thompson 5 year plan we didn't hear about after 3 years.

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