THE NEW Prediction League suggested rules for 2022/2023.

[Brin]

Okay, so I've had a filter through suggestions put forward where ideas/proposals may help the PL become more appealing for the forthcoming season. Hopefully, if there are no objections, and I'm willing to listen anyones feedback, I will set these as the new rules for the 2022/2023 season by 9th July 2022.

Let me know your thoughts on these:

Predictions

1. The Prediction League will run from Saturday 30th July 2022 to Saturday 28th May 2023 and not for a specified number of weeks. If you miss any weeks for any reason, no one can be held accountable for this. This rule applies to everyone who enters before the new season starts so is fair across the board. This decision is final.

2. You will be choosing from 10/10 fixtures like last season. This is an easy concept to work from.

3. The fixtures will be picked from a variation from: The Premiership, Championship, Leagues 1 & 2, National League, Scottish Premiership, FA Cup, Carabao Cup and the World Cup. This is in order to have a full 10 fixtures to choose from all on the same day. Easier to pick from and not running over several days like last season. (No Friday nights or Sunday games some predictors might miss)

4. Midweek fixtures may be used using ALL league and cup games as stated above and again, all on the same night. The reason being, due to the World Cup, the EFL have split many midweek fixtures over Tuesdays and Wednesdays so, other resources will have to be used to make up a set of 10 fixtures.

5. There will be a maximum of 5 draws allowed from your 10 predictions. If you want to gamble each week on 5 draws paying more points then go ahead but, that isn't always the case.

6. Total Goal Tally. This will remain but, is reduced from last season's 5 points down to 3.


The Scoring of Points:

1. Each fixture now carries a different score. You will now receive 1 point for a home win, 2 points for an away win and 3 points if you predict a draw. This concept allows higher scoring if you successfully predict them correct, thus making the table more competitive.

2. Get all 10/10 predictions correct and you will gain a further 10 bonus points. This is very hard to predict but has been achieved before.

3. Total Goal tally - get the total number of goals scored correct and you will receive a further 3 points. If there are any cancelled games from the 10 predictions set, the goal tally will still count no matter how many games are actually played on the day. You therefore may wish to post your entries later in the week in case of any postponed games I may have set earlier in the week.

Hopefully, all the fixtures I post go ahead but, I will not be changing any once I have posted them. This is in case I am not able to make contact with anyone who may well have posted early in the week, and they don't revisit the site until the fixtures have been played on the day and are unable to amend their predictions.

4. Get all 10/10 fixtures and the total goals scored correct and you will win a further 30 points on top of your prediction score. This I feel may never be achieved throughout the season hence the large reward.

5. The Jokers. Yes, this coming season, two 'Jokers' will be allowed per person. One Joker MUST be played before 1st January 2023. You cannot carry it over to the New Year. Don't use it you lose it! You may play your second Joker any time up to the final set of predictions on Saturday 28th May 2023.

This coming season, any Joker played will only have their score applied after all the prediction scores have been tallied and bonuses added. It has been duly noted and deemed unfair that someone playing their Joker, who has a mediocre week can 'pinch' the weekly win bonus off someone who has had a good or great week. In other words you get to double your score playing your Joker but it does not apply to gaining the weekly win bonus should your score finish higher. The Joker only doubles your weekly prediction score and nothing else.

I will keep tabs on a weekly basis who has played their Joker and will look to keep others up to date who haven't so, they don't forget to use them in time.

6. Highest scorer(s) on the day will receive an extra 5 bonus points. This is on predictions only and does not include the goal tally bonus.

7. Predict a score. This is a new bonus incentive where you are asked to choose only 1 from your 10 predictions and state what the final score will be. Get this correct and you get an extra 2 bonus points.

I feel I have covered all the main points but please feel free to comment on any suggestions/proposals put forward.

Last season we had as many as 30 entrants at one point and it would be great if we could match or even better that this time around. I know a lot of you have looked in from time to time but have not taken part. The main thing is it is purely for fun as you pit your skill, wisdom, luck whatever you want to call it against so called fellow Managers/Pundits/ forecasters etc.

It takes all of 5 minutes tops to copy and paste the fixtures and add your predictions, goal tally and now a correct score. Go on give it a go and look to be the new Prediction League Champion for next season......

[pip_y]

Well done Brin, I’m in.

[CAMiller]

Couple of questions/comments Brin

1. Can you predict a score that does not reflect your prediction for that game. e.g. predict H and score 2-2. If so this in effect would give someone a chance to go for 6 draws.
2. The 30 points seems excessive for all 10 plus goals. I think 20 bonus for all 10 has more merit as it is the crux of the competition (and as you say it's hard) and then 30 for all 10 plus goals is more apt.
3. Can both Jokers be played before January 1st or is one before and one after?
4. I don't like the goal bonus going ahead even if games are cancelled. I'd rather see it dropped altogether than go ahead on that basis. It will penalise people who predict early or force people to think about predicting late and possibly forgetting. The time predictions are made should not hinder someone's chances. It's a prediction competition not a 'see who has the balls to predict early' competition when maybe bad weather is forecast. It's particularly unfair on and maybe discourage those who visit the site infrequently from playing.

(In fact thinking about it, I would rather see the goal bonus dropped altogether as most people just play the percentages and stick with the same number week after week - maybe instead of having it just designate a game as game of the week and have all posters predict the score on that game for 3 bonus points instead of letting them pick a game. Makes it easier on you too)

[Brin]

Any thoughts on CAM’s proposals anyone?

[Brin]

Couple of questions/comments Brin

1. Can you predict a score that does not reflect your prediction for that game. e.g. predict H and score 2-2. If so this in effect would give someone a chance to go for 6 draws.
2. The 30 points seems excessive for all 10 plus goals. I think 20 bonus for all 10 has more merit as it is the crux of the competition (and as you say it's hard) and then 30 for all 10 plus goals is more apt.
3. Can both Jokers be played before January 1st or is one before and one after?
4. I don't like the goal bonus going ahead even if games are cancelled. I'd rather see it dropped altogether than go ahead on that basis. It will penalise people who predict early or force people to think about predicting late and possibly forgetting. The time predictions are made should not hinder someone's chances. It's a prediction competition not a 'see who has the balls to predict early' competition when maybe bad weather is forecast. It's particularly unfair on and maybe discourage those who visit the site infrequently from playing.

(In fact thinking about it, I would rather see the goal bonus dropped altogether as most people just play the percentages and stick with the same number week after week - maybe instead of having it just designate a game as game of the week and have all posters predict the score on that game for 3 bonus points instead of letting them pick a game. Makes it easier on you too)

CAM, valid points as always and it wouldn't be the same without your lengthy pre season feedback ....good all the same.
to answer your points:
1. Can you predict a score that does not reflect your prediction for that game. e.g. predict H and score 2-2. If so this in effect would give someone a chance to go for 6 draws. On this I am only looking for the score. If someone did put H and score 2-2, it would only give them the bonus points for the score if correct and would not give them extra for the draw. However, now the decision has been made to run a 'Predict the score' bonus, (see point 4) this has now removed your point on this as the game in question will be neutral to the 10 fixtures I put up.
2. The 30 points seems excessive for all 10 plus goals. I think 20 bonus for all 10 has more merit as it is the crux of the competition (and as you say it's hard) and then 30 for all 10 plus goals is more apt. Good points so yes I will amend so it's 20 points for getting all 10 correct and an extra 10 if you get all 10 and the goal tally correct = 30 points in total.
3. Can both Jokers be played before January 1st or is one before and one after?Apologies. I feel it would be best if both Jokers were played as one before the 1st January and one after. Allowing someone to hold back all season only to play two at once say on the final day to take the title is excessive. Furthermore, if anyone is having a tough time on scoring, then a double boost throughout the season gives them the incentive to maybe carry on.
4. (In fact thinking about it, I would rather see the goal bonus dropped altogether as most people just play the percentages and stick with the same number week after week - maybe instead of having it just designate a game as game of the week and have all posters predict the score on that game for 3 bonus points instead of letting them pick a game. Makes it easier on you too) You make a very valid point and a strong case on the goal tally bonus. The bonus did however run very well last season even with it removed due to cancelled fixtures and, aided some participants who had a low scoring week, hence I felt the need to run it as it incentivises the competition overall.

Your suggestion to have a 'game of the week' actually doubles up on my suggested new bonus offer on 'Predict a score'. Therefore, if no one has any objections and i'm looking for a majority vote on this, we will scrap the 'Goal Tally Bonus' and use the 'Predict a score' as it's replacement. I know ELK will be glad of this as it will eliminate getting the Wooden spoon weekly award .

There is still plenty of time for anyone to counter your suggestions but I think they carry valid weight and seem appropriate to bring in.
Thanks for the input and trust you are enjoying beautiful Hawaii.

[Brin]

AS AN EXAMPLE the new format will look something like this:

Sat 3rd Sept

Villa v Man City
Brentford v Leeds Utd
Brighton v Leicester City
Chelsea v West Ham
Everton v Liverpool
Man Utd v Arsenal
Newcastle v Crystal Palace
Notts Forest v Bournemouth
Tottenham v Fulham
Wolves v Southampton

Predict a score = Weds v Barnsley ? - ? (As you can see, this match is totally neutral to your 10 predictions so no one can benefit from a 6th draw. I am only looking for the score from this)

These are all possible weather, covid, international call ups etc permitting. Once posted I will not be amending anything so, if any game is called off at short notice then it's void.

[thaimillerfan]

AS AN EXAMPLE the new format will look something like this:

Sat 3rd Sept

Villa v Man City
Brentford v Leeds Utd
Brighton v Leicester City
Chelsea v West Ham
Everton v Liverpool
Man Utd v Arsenal
Newcastle v Crystal Palace
Notts Forest v Bournemouth
Tottenham v Fulham
Wolves v Southampton

Predict a score = Weds v Barnsley ? - ? (As you can see, this match is totally neutral to your 10 predictions so no one can benefit from a 6th draw. I am only looking for the score from this)

These are all possible weather, covid, international call ups etc permitting. Once posted I will not be amending anything so, if any game is called off at short notice then it's void.

Brin
Rather confused here I thought you wanted a score prediction from one of the 10 not n eleventh fixture

[Brin]

Brin
Rather confused here I thought you wanted a score prediction from one of the 10 not n eleventh fixture

Thai, no confusion pal. Just pick your usual 10 predictions. The 'predict a score' has now replaced the 'goal tally bonus'

The 11th as you call it is totally neutral to the other 10 so therefore no one can predict 6 draws by saying WEDS 2 V 2 BARNSLEY for example. Plus it stops people from sticking to their usual number '27' like I use to.

[CTMilller]

I like the Idea of a Predict a Score game replacing the Guess the Goals bonus.

Overall this looks good. Thanks Brin (and CAM!)

[millertop]

Any thoughts on CAM’s proposals anyone?

Just ignore him