Hey Buc

[Psaw]

Theres a lot of bad press down here about Nicola Sturgeon, even calling her a Stalinist, incompetent, and intent on destroying Scotland economically.

Whats the view up there.? I am aware your in Aberdeen, now a Tory shire which is very pleasing. Whats your view on independance?

I find it difficult to follow scottish football, im more clued up on Soham Town Rangers, Yaxley, and of course the magnificent Fenmen, Wisbech.

What are your prospects?, i know Aberdeen are one of the scottish elite.

Bobby of Norfolk Terrace. p.s, there is a thread called this is not a joke further down, which explains number 2.

[Disco Buc]

Where can I start .
Firstly here in Scotland we are overwhelmed with Unionist press from London the editors are people who have a foot in the door with the Westminster government and controlled by them to get their view accros.

The press have Nicola Sturgeon bad front page headlines nearly every day trying to put off Scotland from independence the Westminster government don't keep us we can keep ourselves like any other country in Europe similar in size to that of Scotland.


Look at Norway same population similar resources they were the richest country in the world a few years back .
But it's now Qatar and Norway 2nd .🤔

If you read the McCrone report you will learn much from it basically it was said that Scotland would be one of the richest countries in the world if we went independent so the government hid that information from our people to stop the rising of the SNP and independence.🙄

We now have renewables which will be huge for Scotland .
There's a renewable line from Peterhead to North East England that's going to feed millions of homes as one example .
🤔
A lot of people up here believe Westminster don't give Scotland the truth of what we really earn the McCrone report is testament to that .😠

In Feb 2014 the yes campaign went from around 27-33% to taking the lead for independence only for the London government to offer us 3 new powers .😥

They panicked because this wasn't supposed to happen the press was against us the BBC was against us so why does Westminster panick about losing Scotland .
🙄


Nicola Sturgeon and her government have some quality people who work for them .

They certainly don't hide in fridges or jump out of back doors to hide from difficult questions .
They also don't get the questions from the BBC before they go on unlike the Tories .🙄

The Tories are a disgrace but they can do what they want when they want .😕

[Disco Buc]

Just to add in 2014 the "Scottish"people voted for independence.
But we have a lot of people living here from around the world and they are welcome but 1 in every 11 people living here is from over the border (my wife being one) that equates to 418.000 75% of them voted NO in 2014 that's a huge amount most are Tories like your good self Psaw.👍.

The Poles voted NO because they thought they'd stay in Europe most have now went home unbelievable

But I'm proud to say I'm European not to be is a huge mistake .

As most of Scotland are of course .

[griff]

The McCrone report was written 57 years ago, Jimmy, and doesn’t reflect the situation now, especially with oil being written out of the equation.. It’s true what you say though about the amount of English living up there. Every time I se a TV programme talking with land or business owners and the like or doing voxpops there’s a lot of English accents. But given that they’re no doubt contributing to the economy, shouldn’t their voice be heard too?

And isn’t it time to ditch the Barnett formula which was only supposed to last for two years and no longer has any reason to continue. Scotland gets more Westminster support than Cumbria under that.

[Psaw]

The media i read and watch say that scottish independence will be a catastrophe for scotland, and that your standard of living will drop significantly.

Yet you are stating the opposite, even suggesting scotland could be one of the richest countries in the world.

Someone is lying.

Who can it be?

I will look up the McCrone report tomorrow. If the SNP have got it wrong, and you get independence, you are in big trouble. So why would the SNP knowingly betray scotland?

Is it possible for parliament to deceive the scots to maintain the Union.? I dont think so. I hope you dont mind me saying this, but with all left wing ideologies, it smacks of paranoia.

Personally i have no problem with an independent scotland, we can hardly complain about that having gained our own from the EU. I dont understand why you want independence, but then want to surrender that to the EU. Norway are independent.

Especially if you are or can be, one of the richest countries in the world. You dont get the faults of the EU. Thinking you could be one of the richest countries in the world is errrrr......wrong.

Getting back to my original point, if scotland can be rich, all well and good. If its all malarky, you personally, are making a bigga da mistaka, and you have been sold a three wheel car.

It does bring up a more disturbing observation. Who can we trust to tell the truth about anything? I include the Tories in that. I watch question time, and even i can spot a lie.

I could never do that, lie on tv. That little fellow, of the SNP does it all the time in parliament. There should be a sanction for deliberately misleading the public. We pay them to tell the truth.

I trust the Tories far more than the socialists, in fact, there isnt a labour person i trust. Thats a problem they cant tackle. I used to listen to Frank Field, he was honest.

The upshot is you could be wrong. And firing on those who are keeping scotland healthy. I gave up a long time ago trying to make people see sense. In fact now i prefer to encourage their wrongness, i suppose, as a hidden type of aggression. Or as a way of helping maturity along, as it only comes from suffering.

But not with you buc. I could reinforce your paranoia, and make out scotland is hard done by the beastly english, who are evil and devilish.

By the way, you could soon be selling scotch in India soon, thanks to Liz Truss.

[Disco Buc]

There's so much wrong with that post mate but I will leave it there as I've already spoke about the UK media they are a disgrace and not fair they should be taken to task.

[Disco Buc]

Aye it was 57 years ago and our wealth was hidden by Westminster.
But Griff I love our friends over the border and they have every right to vote it's just a pity 75% voted for the union that hurt big time .

But as you know my wife's a Londoner born and bred I love the English and even supported your team in the Euros it's Westminster I have a problem with.
The Barnett formula isn't good for the likes of Cumbria who are largely ignored by Westminster I don't think that's good love to see you join us free prescriptions and free university fees because Nicola puts health and education high up on her list .

But Scotland puts in way more than it receives from the coffers down South .

Psaw. For the record the SNP have a stronghold in Aberdeen these days .👍

[Disco Buc]

Even Mark Carney Bank of England admitted to Scotland's real wealth because he had to .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=44GYftHcPkI

[Psaw]

I have looked up the McCrone report, and its about the oil fields. I remember the sixties and early seventies, and i would watch the news even though i was a nipper.

Every bulletin was about how Britain was going bust, and the Irish war, with Kenneth Kendal. The BBC was ok in those days. Finding oil was a salvation for this country. Scottish independence was ignited. Not before. I expect you will want to come back when the oil dries up.

I dont know if Scotland has been ripped off or not, im just repeating what ive learned by reading and watching tv. If they have, its like a poor family, and the mother finds a trillion quid, and wont share it with the rest of the family.

Then wants a divorce, and fs off.

Which unfortunately is how this world works. I did say earlier that i didnt give a hoot whether Scotland got independence or not. Your love of the English doesnt include sharing your wealth. If you go, i wont have to listen to that bag Sturgeon or that f at tart Blackford anymore. And if was up to me, you wont be coming back.

This is a democracy, it cant be hard to find out the truth about the the oil money. All i know is that when questioned, Sturgeon cant give a straight answer over the figures. A trillion quid....how much has it cost to run scotland from 1970 till now? You wont get much change from a trillion. Without the oil, Scotland is a financial anchor around Britains neck, as is Wales. Now, how does it feel to be on the recieving end of English independence.?

Without you two, England would be like Saudi Arabia.

I think Scotland should go, and have a proper border. Im tired of the rest of britain not getting the advantages you have, and the constant moaning.

By the way Griff, Cambridgeshire education authority gets the lowest amount of cash in the country. Ive tried to find it on the internet but cant. I tried because im sure you wont believe that, because you think the south lives on caviar.

[Disco Buc]

Here's some knowledge for you.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...n-scotland-scn

Scotland isn't all about oil .

https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...n-scotland-scn


I see you've done loads of reading as we've learned in Scotland check and see who is giving you your news .