Newcase United- v - Leeds United *** Matchday Thread***

[WTF11]

VAR

So far this season.

Away to Manure - Bruno Fernandz - Marginally offside for their 3rd goal - NO VAR review, Shaw handles in his own area - no VAR review - both decisions according to the comentators would have resulted in an offside, and penalty last season - both deiosions in Scums favour.

Home to Everton - Cooper grabs Calvin lewins shirt in a 50/50 tussle - ref misses it, VAR gets him to go to pitchside monitor - Penalty to Everton. Last minute - Bamford flattened in Everton penalty area - no VAR review - no penalty

Away to Burnley - Tarkowski slam dunks Bamford in build up play - no VAR review - just a yellow awarded. Barnes sythes Dallas at knee height in the Leeds area - should be a certain red - no VAR review - yellow given.

Home to Liverpool - Struijk makes a clean tackle on Elliot - Ref doesn't award a free kick or stop play until Klopp intervenes - then Straight red for Stuijk - no VAR review

Away to Newcastle - James flattened in Newcastles penalty area - no penaltyn awarded - Dean only about 4 yards away with a clear view - No VAR review.

Get the picture?

Battered by Scum and Liverpool - unlucky against Everton and Newcastle

could easily be sitting on 7 points instead of 3 with a bit of luck and fairness from the officials

They say it balances out over the season - I don't believe that that maxim applies to Leeds TBH

Back to my previous comment on this. Whether all the above is correct or an under/overstatement is irrelevant. There is nothing that can be done and getting bent out of shape (as supporter or player (as Cooper was quoted as being)), simply makes a bad situation worse. We (club and fans), can influence only that which happens within LUFC. I suspect that will be Bielsas view also.

[whitestomper45]

I was referring to the attempted drop goal, a tactic employed by both backs and forwards in rugby, or hadn't you noticed that?

Course you were darling, a drop goal is usually created by someone ( in the forward row or scrum half from scrum)most times passing to the guy known for his kicking ability

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Course you were darling, a drop goal is usually created by someone ( in the forward row or scrum half from scrum)most times passing to the guy known for his kicking ability

Forwards don’t really take drop goals - almost never in Union (unless your name is Zinfandel Brooke) and only the loose forward in league if skilled (in which case they often switch roles with the half backs) and very few of the backs. SH, FH and centres (maybe). WS is right though it is usually only the FH who takes drop goals and then in very limited circumstances unless the team plays 10 man rugby.

A drop goal in league is only worth 1 point so usually only used at the end of the game where scores are tied.

A long way of agreeing with WS.

[WTF11]

Forwards don’t really take drop goals - almost never in Union (unless your name is Zinfandel Brooke) and only the loose forward in league if skilled (in which case they often switch roles with the half backs) and very few of the backs. SH, FH and centres (maybe). WS is right though it is usually only the FH who takes drop goals and then in very limited circumstances unless the team plays 10 man rugby.

A drop goal in league is only worth 1 point so usually only used at the end of the game where scores are tied.

A long way of agreeing with WS.

Yeah well, long or short way I suppose you two backslapping each other is another example of "besties" as Tich touchingly put it.

All the above ignores the fact that instead of scoring, the ball was sent almost (almost!) vertically into the stand (if not a drop goal, maybe an "up and under" as uncle Eddie used to put it). Either way, prize f00k up by someone who should know better (taking lessons from Rodrigo maybe?)

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Oh dear the not throwing out insults didn’t last very long did it. You seem to have reverted to type whenever someone points out an error you either pivot to a new argument and/or attack said person whilst conveniently ignoring you may have been wrong.

So Firpo missed a chance - big deal - so did Rapha and Bamford in that game and the ref missed a blatant penalty.

Mane against us missed more of a sitter and he is a goal scorer - he conveyed one from 8 or 9 chances but does that make him a bad player - no.

If you compare the stats of the whole team not just pointing out what you see as the flaws of the new whipping boy - everyone including Rapha is performing less well than last year - but the season is only 5 games in and we have played 4 tough games. Sure they will pick it up again when we find our rhythm

Buy yourself a Cadbury’s Caramel and act like Pam Eyres suggests.

Next 5 games include some very winnable games and sure we will get a bounce from the mid week win at Fulham. If we are still winless after 15 games then that is the time to panic.

[WTF11]

Oh dear the not throwing out insults didn’t last very long did it. You seem to have reverted to type whenever someone points out an error you either pivot to a new argument and/or attack said person whilst conveniently ignoring you may have been wrong.

So Firpo missed a chance - big deal - so did Rapha and Bamford in that game and the ref missed a blatant penalty.

Mane against us missed more of a sitter and he is a goal scorer - he conveyed one from 8 or 9 chances but does that make him a bad player - no.

If you compare the stats of the whole team not just pointing out what you see as the flaws of the new whipping boy - everyone including Rapha is performing less well than last year - but the season is only 5 games in and we have played 4 tough games. Sure they will pick it up again when we find our rhythm

Buy yourself a Cadbury’s Caramel and act like Pam Eyres suggests.

Next 5 games include some very winnable games and sure we will get a bounce from the mid week win at Fulham. If we are still winless after 15 games then that is the time to panic.

So "besties" (coined I would remind you by your good friend Tich), is an insult? Bit like me querying Ozwhites grey matter if he too my guarantee of no U23s featuring for the season?

Thin-skinned springs to mind (oh no, another insult!).

As for the more pertinent comment about poor performance, agree 100%. We're not firing on anywhere near all cylinders, and on the basis that Bamford won't play (or at least start) today, then we might well be depending on Roberts and/or Rodrigo, so no change there.

Be "interesting" to see what Bielsa does with the youngsters.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Not thinned skinned just pointing out another inconsistency - I just don’t get your vitriol and at times inability to resist having a dig at pretty much anyone who disagrees with you.

Anyways back to Football - yes it will be interesting. If Rapha is fit and he plays Rodrigo up top with KP, Klich and Shackleton in midfield I think we could make life hard for West Ham.

We need to find a way to stop putting ourselves under pressure in our own half - would far rather we played possession football in their half or the final third.

If we can find ways of getting either Rapha or James one on one with the fullbacks then we may get more quality chances.

[Tichi1]

Not thinned skinned just pointing out another inconsistency - I just don’t get your vitriol and at times inability to resist having a dig at pretty much anyone who disagrees with you.

Anyways back to Football - yes it will be interesting. If Rapha is fit and he plays Rodrigo up top with KP, Klich and Shackleton in midfield I think we could make life hard for West Ham.

We need to find a way to stop putting ourselves under pressure in our own half - would far rather we played possession football in their half or the final third.

If we can find ways of getting either Rapha or James one on one with the fullbacks then we may get more quality chances.

I think its time we started to strengthen the midfield as opposed to playing four defenders, one midfielder and five forwards

Think Klitch and Shackleton with Philips in midfield would give us a better "Backbone" and maybe sacrifice something in attack to strengthen the middle and defece.

If we are always to play one up top please let it be Rodrigo rather than Roberts!

[Tichi1]

I think its time we started to strengthen the midfield as opposed to playing four defenders, one midfielder and five forwards

Think Klitch and Shackleton with Philips in midfield would give us a better "Backbone" and maybe sacrifice something in attack to strengthen the middle and defece.

If we are always to play one up top please let it be Rodrigo rather than Roberts!

Got my wish yesterday until they brought Roberts on ffs
BUT WE STILL LOST - mainly down to going gung ho the last ten minutes when players looked knackered - 8 men caught out for their breakaway winner.

Need better game management - when struggling

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

One game soon please let some of those chances be converted - a two or three goal cushion would be a welcome
Luxury!