Here We Go Again - Boris Concerned About Energy Companies

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Seems that every thread turns into something about Brexit, there have been many great examples of new energy companies that are weathering the wholesale price rise but as always you do get chancers.

[WBA123]

Seems that every thread turns into something about Brexit, there have been many great examples of new energy companies that are weathering the wholesale price rise but as always you do get chancers.

Well I don't know enough about gas prices to tell you how much of it is Brexit related, but I do know we left the EU internal energy market. Which means we have lost influence and some control over our energy prices.

I also know Boris Johnson claimed we would have cheaper energy bills because of Brexit, and it appears the opposite will be true and we'll be paying far higher rates than other EU countries. Anyone here work in gas who can tell us why this is?

Or can anyone inform me why our PM, who is also ironically a proven liar, would say this about our energy bills?

Genuinely interested to hear

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

Well I don't know enough about gas prices to tell you how much of it is Brexit related, but I do know we left the EU internal energy market. Which means we have lost influence and some control over our energy prices.

I also know Boris Johnson claimed we would have cheaper energy bills because of Brexit, and it appears the opposite will be true and we'll be paying far higher rates than other EU countries. Anyone here work in gas who can tell us why this is?

Or can anyone inform me why our PM, who is also ironically a proven liar, would say this about our energy bills?

Genuinely interested to hear

To present high gas prices as a consequence of Brexit and to in anyway believe remaining would have protected the UK is eyewash. No idea what the 'EU internal energy market' actually brings to the party (do you?) but I do know individual states all have their own fuel policies. I do know prices for the EU have risen by around 300% and they too have low stocks. France is less affected as they have a much larger proportion of their energy nuclear sourced.Good dea?

Still I am sure EU citizens will rest easy in their beds knowing that EU Energy Ministers are going to have a meeting.

[mickd1961]

Well I don't know enough about gas prices to tell you how much of it is Brexit related, but I do know we left the EU internal energy market. Which means we have lost influence and some control over our energy prices.

I also know Boris Johnson claimed we would have cheaper energy bills because of Brexit, and it appears the opposite will be true and we'll be paying far higher rates than other EU countries. Anyone here work in gas who can tell us why this is?

Or can anyone inform me why our PM, who is also ironically a proven liar, would say this about our energy bills?

Genuinely interested to hear

Absolute piffle as usual in regards to Boris and Brexit getting the blame.


Germany have got a bigger problem with this gas issue than we have!


Forgive me for saying, but my assumption was that Germany were still in the Eu?

[WBA123]

Absolute piffle as usual in regards to Boris and Brexit getting the blame.


Germany have got a bigger problem with this gas issue than we have!


Forgive me for saying, but my assumption was that Germany were still in the Eu?

Our PM, who everyone knows has a problematic relationship with the truth, claimed we would have cheaper energy bills because of Brexit. This definitely happened, this is not piffle. He got elected on the back of statements like this.

I don't know enough about gas prices to know if it is Brexit related. But the my comment above is not piffle, its a fair statement isn't it?

[WBA123]

To present high gas prices as a consequence of Brexit and to in anyway believe remaining would have protected the UK is eyewash. No idea what the 'EU internal energy market' actually brings to the party (do you?) but I do know individual states all have their own fuel policies. I do know prices for the EU have risen by around 300% and they too have low stocks. France is less affected as they have a much larger proportion of their energy nuclear sourced.Good dea?

Still I am sure EU citizens will rest easy in their beds knowing that EU Energy Ministers are going to have a meeting.

I don't know enough about it to say whether Brexit has or hasn't impacted energy prices. I just know we were told by our PM we would have cheaper energy prices because of Brexit.

So I guess this is either a lie or he is incompetent. Which one is it?

[kettering_baggie]

I don't know enough about it to say whether Brexit has or hasn't impacted energy prices. I just know we were told by our PM we would have cheaper energy prices because of Brexit.

So I guess this is either a lie or he is incompetent. Which one is it?

Both!

[WBA123]

Germany have got a bigger problem with this gas issue than we have!

Forgive me for saying, but my assumption was that Germany were still in the Eu?





For the benefit of Mick,

Interesting article below;

Did you mean Germany have a bigger problem in terms of the environment? Because their gas prices are much cheaper than ours..

https://news.sky.com/story/energy-cr...bours-12413057

After Brexit, the UK left the European Union's Internal Energy Market, and there's little doubt that the supply process, between Britain and the EU, is now more clunky than it was before.

(Cont'd)

France, for instance, isn't suffering in the same way because a great deal of its power comes from its own nuclear power stations.

Norway and Sweden generate lots of hydroelectric power; in Portugal, half of the energy supply comes from water or wind.

Germany tends to avoid problems because it's burning a huge amount of coal. Ditto in Poland, for example.

That's quite handy for the security of supply, albeit it's very bad for the environment

[kettering_baggie]

Actually, I believe that the best interests of the country as far as essential utilities are concerned would be state ownership. The supply of Gas, Electricity and Water should be managed by state owned organisations; take out the profiteering elements from these essential utilities.

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

I don't know enough about it to say whether Brexit has or hasn't impacted energy prices. I just know we were told by our PM we would have cheaper energy prices because of Brexit.

So I guess this is either a lie or he is incompetent. Which one is it?

That you 'didn't know enough about it' didn't prevent you and millions of others (my eldest and daughter-in-law are 2) just waiting for something, anything, to go wrong and jump on the blame Brexit bandwagon. Which were you incompetent or lying?

I think the Govt might claim they did reduced fuel prices by being the first to introduce a price cap (Labour idea.) Blaming the govt in these extraordinary times would be like blaming them for the economy struggling after Covid.