Mcpake

[BCram]

I'm pretty certain he'll get many more games and I'm not shouting for his head yet either. I hope he can turn it round, just don't think he will.

And we all know what hope does.

Yep, hope is what keeps this club going!

[BP33]

A cogent and considered counter argument. I won't even mention the obvious thing.

I expect no less from you right enough.

What is the obvious thing? Please don’t say the Club shop. I mean you never see away supporters walking past the Dabs shop.

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What is the obvious thing? Please don’t say the Club shop. I mean you never see away supporters walking past the Dabs shop.

Don't expect you to understand, you're just not clever enough.

[jdfc]

What is the obvious thing? Please don’t say the Club shop. I mean you never see away supporters walking past the Dabs shop.

It’s all about where he parks his car

[Returnofrros]

It’s all about where he parks his car

I don't get the accesibility thing.

Dens and tannadice are the most accessible grounds in Scotland, no matter what end of either ground you are in.

North south east and west can leave pretty quickly in all directions.

Changing ends will add at most 3 or 4 mins extra to get to your usual car parking space/house/pub.

And for some it will be quicker

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It’s all about where he parks his car

I don't get the accesibility thing.

Dens and tannadice are the most accessible grounds in Scotland, no matter what end of either ground you are in.

North south east and west can leave pretty quickly in all directions.

Changing ends will add at most 3 or 4 mins extra to get to your usual car parking space/house/pub.

And for some it will be quicker

The obvious thing that the other poster missed isn't the parking.

In all honesty the parking's not that important but I'm not too keen on walking out of Dens, turning left past the Main Stand, in the direction I would want to go to get home, and being confronted by a wave of minky OF fans, Aberdeen fans or whoever fans coming in the opposite direction to get back to their buses; recipe for absolute disaster and something that the police, the council and our renowned Stadium Manager will never allow.

[Returnofrros]

The obvious thing that the other poster missed isn't the parking.

In all honesty the parking's not that important but I'm not too keen on walking out of Dens, turning left past the Main Stand, in the direction I would want to go to get home, and being confronted by a wave of minky OF fans, Aberdeen fans or whoever fans coming in the opposite direction to get back to their buses; recipe for absolute disaster and something that the police, the council and our renowned Stadium Manager will never allow.

Walk north.

Allowed at tannadice.

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Walk north.

Allowed at tannadice.

Been walking home / back to the car the same way from the ground for decades, why should I change now? I'm being serious here; would it make enough difference to atmosphere or performances to justify the increased risk of trouble outside the ground or to risk people saying '**** it, ehm no sittin there' and not renewing season tickets? It's a no from me. The Coxy / Shankly thing isn't the problem IMO so any change will make zero difference outside of minor inconvenience to some.

Some people already moan like *** because they need to pick up tickets at the club shop and walk to The Coxy or Derry, seemingly some just don't go any more because of this. Can you imagine the extra moaning and abandonment of the club if the walk was changed from The Coxy to The Shankly? 'Move the shop to Shankly end' I hear you say - further to Derry = more moaning and abandonment.

Anyway unless the club pulls the finger out pretty fkn soon I don't think I'll be the only one already questioning why I fell for the season ticket again and already considering not renewing next season.

[Returnofrros]

Been walking home / back to the car the same way from the ground for decades, why should I change now? I'm being serious here; would it make enough difference to atmosphere or performances to justify the increased risk of trouble outside the ground or to risk people saying '**** it, ehm no sittin there' and not renewing season tickets? It's a no from me. The Coxy / Shankly thing isn't the problem IMO so any change will make zero difference outside of minor inconvenience to some.

Some people already moan like *** because they need to pick up tickets at the club shop and walk to The Coxy or Derry, seemingly some just don't go any more because of this. Can you imagine the extra moaning and abandonment of the club if the walk was changed from The Coxy to The Shankly? 'Move the shop to Shankly end' I hear you say - further to Derry = more moaning and abandonment.

Anyway unless the club pulls the finger out pretty fkn soon I don't think I'll be the only one already questioning why I fell for the season ticket again and already considering not renewing next season.

For the greater good........that's my socialist tendencies kicking in.😁

Massive difference.

There's been trouble as it is.

People are saying **** it now under current arrangements.

Keep doing the same thing, same result....**** atmosphere.

[Returnofrros]

Parkhead, ibrox, tynecastle, Easter road, macaroni and cheese, tannadice, Dingwall, paisley (same station), east end park, new Douglas, Perth shared car park, rugby park.....all grounds where mixing of fans happen without a death toll resembling the Somme.