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Thread: Camel jockeys in toon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monaco_Totty View Post
    Makes no sense to allow a club that is technically insolvent to add to its debt - foots love football authorities.

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    We all will have our views & opinions on the whole takeover issue, trouble is come Jan, they will have some sizeable cash to spend / possible new manager in place, and with their present squad not too bad, 2/3 recruits could make the difference, adding more pressure on us & the other teams in and round the bottom 6-7 places.

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    With the human rights issue regarding that murderous saudi prince who is behind it all any player with any morals would surely question whether they want to go their.

    Then again if there is enough wedge been offered who gives a donald duck...seeing Newcastle take the knee will now be one of the most hypocritical sights in Football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopelesslyoptimistic View Post
    Makes no sense to allow a club that is technically insolvent to add to its debt - foots love football authorities.


    Possibly not of interest for some but there is strong opinion for the now requirement of an Independent Regulator of Football in England going on behind the scenes.
    https://assets.publishing.service.go...ble_Format.pdf

    Football clubs are not ordinary businesses.They play a critical social, civic, and cultural role in their local communities and they need to be protected.I joined the FSA [Football Supporters Association] to keep positive and productive by promoting Mental Health/Disability issues that create issues for said like football supporters who attend games and for those who cannot - which is rewarding and sometimes challenging but fun.

    The Premier League’s decision to approve the PIF takeover has reopened the debate about who owns our football clubs. While Newcastle United fans are understandably ecstatic to see the back of Mike Ashley, many supporters throughout the game, including some Newcastle fans, have expressed concerns about the role of nation states in the ownership structures of clubs and the impact of their human rights violations.

    Ultimately supporters have been put in an impossible position as billionaire owners pass clubs from one to another with no input from fans, meaning clubs at an elite level have become the playthings of individuals or regimes with shocking human rights records.
    In essence in her interim report, Crouch is recommending the establishment of an independent regulator which will oversee a new club licensing system to improve the standard of ownership across the game.

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    Just for the record, in my opinion . Ordinary businesses DO play a critical social civic and cultural role in their local communities. Try seeing how a local community gets on without a local employer.
    And they have to stand on their own 2 feet and run their business in spite of all the schitt that is going at the minute.

    Yes I have a small business with no fu cker throwing money at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyni View Post
    Just for the record, in my opinion . Ordinary businesses DO play a critical social civic and cultural role in their local communities. Try seeing how a local community gets on without a local employer.
    And they have to stand on their own 2 feet and run their business in spite of all the schitt that is going at the minute.

    Yes I have a small business with no fu cker throwing money at it.
    post of the year candidate.

    always amazed at people that think the government creates anything. It's the private sector that creates and pays the bills. Small businesses are the lifeblood of every healthy economy.

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    good point on the impact that football teams have.

    however, if they did dissolve, or more likely, become irrelevant something else takes their place. Here across the pond some of the pro sports have decided they want to preach their view on the fans. Attendance and ratings have dropped and interest is way down. Covid was part of that but there is a whole lot more than just the Covid as to why interest and ratings are down. Some activities (such as sports or entertainment) are releases from daily life. People don't want to be preached at and told how bad they are by some person making millions of dollars playing a sport or reading some movie script.

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    Prior to Covid,during and now the local economy of Leeds like any other city is in a serious mess.I left my home in York a while back and it's now become a central location haven for new build flats serviced by large supermarkets on its boundaries and new mini- supermarkets in its centre on every corner.Not a chance for youth to be able to afford to live there sadly - that's a Govt dilemma to solve still but personally I'm glad to be out of such a situation.

    The football club being back in the PL is a welcome economy boost for many city businesses and particularly smaller independent ones.

    The PL as an entity brings about £3.3bn a year in tax, that gives you some sense of scale.

    That is a lot of money from 20 clubs and one of the most staggering facts is that they reckon 680,000 people come from abroad to watch Premier League games. Clubs like Leeds, both Manchester clubs and Liverpool - the big northern teams get people coming from Ireland and Scandinavia, so even in the northern region there will be about 200,000 people a year.

    It is a staggering tourist trade. That has been drawn down to a general estimate per game for Leeds that we would be taking £3m for each home game through tickets, drinks, trains,buses,taxis,local shops & hotels.

    The Leeds hotels, bars and restaurants are saying ‘it will be amazing, it is huge’. The other thing we are starting to look at is profile. Last time Leeds were in the PL most people (away fans) under 20 potentially will never have been to Leeds.

    They might come to Leeds and like it & visit it again or even move to the city.That kind of volume of UK tourism trade is just huge.

    It gives people in the local communities & local business something to be hopeful about.

    The West and North Yorkshire Chamber of Commerce of who my Mum helps out regarding the city of Leeds opportunities said the Leeds United brand carried weight across the entire country.

    Mark Goldstone, head of business representation and policy at the chamber stated recently the Leeds United brand carries such weight across the country with the promotion to the premiership bringing both direct and indirect economic benefit to the city both on match days and beyond.

    We have seen the impact major events have on the city, from the Tour de France Grand Depart through so having PL back in the city once again will make a significant contribution and raise Leeds’s profile even further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyni View Post
    Just for the record, in my opinion . Ordinary businesses DO play a critical social civic and cultural role in their local communities. Try seeing how a local community gets on without a local employer.
    And they have to stand on their own 2 feet and run their business in spite of all the schitt that is going at the minute.

    Yes I have a small business with no fu cker throwing money at it.

    Q. 'Football clubs are not ordinary businesses.They play a critical social, civic, and cultural role in their local communities and they need to be protected'.

    A. Foreign ownerships that far to often sadly dismiss clubs historic role function in their local communities was the gist.
    NO intention to 'diss' the many independent businesses Billy - the opposite actually.

    To buy/own a club should have a responsibility to its local community & invest into it - Some do but many don't.

    Comment made was that some owners do not listen to fans & don't listen to local communities either and as such new legislation should make such situations not possible.

    https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/...eague-one-two/

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