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    Quote Originally Posted by toptoon View Post
    Band wagon jumper? I thought he was a ‘doer’ after getting us out of Europe. I’d describe the floundering Theresa May as more of a band wagon jumper.
    That party as a whole are bandwagon jumpers

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    No one can blame the Newcastle fans for anything regarding this takeover and the happiness and joy over the fact that Mike Ashley has left the club.

    If the Geordies in the name of Saudi Arabia start locking up women and/or homo***uals for doing demonstrations in the streets, sure, something's wrong.

    Based on what I can read on here, I think I'm in the minority regarding certain aspects of this takeover, and have no desire to open a can of worms in terms of the political discussion. But no matter what anyone thinks, how can anybody moralise over or blame the fans of this club??? That's rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    They can all fcuk off and take their agenda-driven faux moral outrage somewhere else.

    I couldn't give a sh!t what anyone else thinks.

    I'm happy to engage in discussion with anyone who has genuine misgivings...but, as Trini so aptly describes it, it's just noise.
    this 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    They can all fcuk off and take their agenda-driven faux moral outrage somewhere else.

    I couldn't give a sh!t what anyone else thinks.

    I'm happy to engage in discussion with anyone who has genuine misgivings...but, as Trini so aptly describes it, it's just noise.
    Or more likely jealousy. How many critics of our takeover would refuse to be in our position, hypocritically quoting morals.

    And another point is that the more the Saudis engage with us, meaning closer engagement and involvement with the west, eventually, the quicker they may change the way they conduct their way of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughieG View Post
    No one can blame the Newcastle fans for anything regarding this takeover and the happiness and joy over the fact that Mike Ashley has left the club.

    If the Geordies in the name of Saudi Arabia start locking up women and/or homo***uals for doing demonstrations in the streets, sure, something's wrong.

    Based on what I can read on here, I think I'm in the minority regarding certain aspects of this takeover, and have no desire to open a can of worms in terms of the political discussion. But no matter what anyone thinks, how can anybody moralise over or blame the fans of this club??? That's rubbish.
    Just to clarify my earlier point, what I meant was the rest is just noise.

    I wouldn't blame anyone for having misgivings about Saudi ownership and each person has to make their own decision about how far PIF will be influenced by the Saudi rulers (not at all if the legal documents that satisfied the PL are to be believed) and whether following a football club means you are endorsing the way they rule, what they've done, etc.

    Obviously I and the vast majority of fans don't think it does but I know a few do and it's not up to us to tell the genuine ones that they're wrong.

    In equal measure I admire and feel sorry for them. They're seeing the club they love handed this incredible opportunity to become one of the world's biggest clubs but they feel they can't engage with it any more (or to an extent) because of their deeply held misgivings about our new owners.I know a few fans are going to stop going or following the club altogether because of their principles and that's really sad-but it's exactly the same thing a lot of us have been doing because of our feelings about Ashley so we can't be having a go at them for doing what we did.

    Like I say, though, only the genuine ones. The PC hand-wringers can bugger off along with the other gobshites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    Just to clarify my earlier point, what I meant was the rest is just noise.

    I wouldn't blame anyone for having misgivings about Saudi ownership and each person has to make their own decision about how far PIF will be influenced by the Saudi rulers (not at all if the legal documents that satisfied the PL are to be believed) and whether following a football club means you are endorsing the way they rule, what they've done, etc.

    Obviously I and the vast majority of fans don't think it does but I know a few do and it's not up to us to tell the genuine ones that they're wrong.

    In equal measure I admire and feel sorry for them. They're seeing the club they love handed this incredible opportunity to become one of the world's biggest clubs but they feel they can't engage with it any more (or to an extent) because of their deeply held misgivings about our new owners.I know a few fans are going to stop going or following the club altogether because of their principles and that's really sad-but it's exactly the same thing a lot of us have been doing because of our feelings about Ashley so we can't be having a go at them for doing what we did.

    Like I say, though, only the genuine ones. The PC hand-wringers can bugger off along with the other gobshites.
    Sorry, only saw this now.

    Was certainly not having a go at you, Zip, if it at all seemed that way

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