Admin appeals 12 point deduction

[MadAmster]

..... what it says on the tin

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58868575

[Geoff Parkstone]

I read that, and have to say (a) I'm not convinced that there are grounds and (b) doing so will simply encourage the EFL to dig their heels in on the FFP breach penalty.

Still its another few hundred thousands of the taxmans money going!

[Trickytreesreds]

I read that, and have to say (a) I'm not convinced that there are grounds and (b) doing so will simply encourage the EFL to dig their heels in on the FFP breach penalty.

Still its another few hundred thousands of the taxmans money going!

It smacks of stalling tactics.
The longer they can dwell on the original 12 points penalty, nothing else goes on.

[MadAmster]

It smacks of stalling tactics.
The longer they can dwell on the original 12 points penalty, nothing else goes on.

So, basically, what you wrote is that, as long as we are appealing the 12 points deduction, the EFL can't deduct us a number of points for exceeding FFP on one or more 3 year cycles.

Is that what you meant?

If it is I believe you are wrong. The two aren't/shouldn't be connected as they are separate charges.

[Trickytreesreds]

So, basically, what you wrote is that, as long as we are appealing the 12 points deduction, the EFL can't deduct us a number of points for exceeding FFP on one or more 3 year cycles.

Is that what you meant?

If it is I believe you are wrong. The two aren't/shouldn't be connected as they are separate charges.

Yes Maddy I know that. But the belief is, that you have had 12 points deducted now. The other 9 are at their pleasure for the books + 3 for any further failings.

I was told, they may sit on them this season and give them you them next season. Of course Sheff Weds/Wycombe aren't happy anyway. The both suffered for the stalling last last season. This latest stall, could see another back lash.
No way the EFL are letting this go.

[MadAmster]

Yes Maddy I know that. But the belief is, that you have had 12 points deducted now. The other 9 are at their pleasure for the books + 3 for any further failings.

I was told, they may sit on them this season and give them you them next season. Of course Sheff Weds/Wycombe aren't happy anyway. The both suffered for the stalling last last season. This latest stall, could see another back lash.
No way the EFL are letting this go.

Derby stalling last season?

Who brought the charges? Derby or the EFL?
Who took ages to convene the disciplinary committee? Derby or the EFL?
Who took ages to deliver the original verdict? Derby or the EFL disciplinary committee?
Who took almost the entire 28 day period to decide to appeal the accounting question but not the ground sale? Derby or the EFL?
Who took forever to convene the appeal hearing? Derby or the EFL?
Who took another age to deliver the appeal verdict? Derby or the EFL?

[Andy_Faber]

I don't agree with either the appeal or the reason given. Using my regular phrase, suck it up buttercup.

[swaledale]

I don't agree with either the appeal or the reason given. Using my regular phrase, suck it up buttercup.

The Administrators are doing their job, which is to explore every angle to improve the clubs position and get it sold, so even if there is a 50/50 chance of any appeal succeeding, they at least have to try. After all the Wendies got 6pts knocked off their sanction somehow, not that it did the much good!

[Andy_Faber]

The Administrators are doing their job, which is to explore every angle to improve the clubs position and get it sold, so even if there is a 50/50 chance of any appeal succeeding, they at least have to try. After all the Wendies got 6pts knocked off their sanction somehow, not that it did the much good!

Fair go but a few hundred thousand down the chutes doesn't sit well with me. A friend of mine from Chesterfield who follows Sheff Wed and Derby from afar says there's a key difference in attitude, his assessment is that Wednesday were too negative in their response to the punishment and it spread to the stands and the pitch, Derby appear to have grasped the fact that theres a perverse prize to be had (championship survival) from minute 1 and got on with it, team and supporters.

[swaledale]

Fair go but a few hundred thousand down the chutes doesn't sit well with me. A friend of mine from Chesterfield who follows Sheff Wed and Derby from afar says there's a key difference in attitude, his assessment is that Wednesday were too negative in their response to the punishment and it spread to the stands and the pitch, Derby appear to have grasped the fact that theres a perverse prize to be had (championship survival) from minute 1 and got on with it, team and supporters.

Maybe Derby have less fickle supporters? Yes its a gamble but then I guess success would mean a few million on the plus side?