OT:. Sky News Live from Rotherham

[Grumpy King of the West]

The Waverley industrial estate with all the new tech businesses etc whenever it’s mentioned in this always in Sheffield I don’t know for sure but I’d say it’s in Rotherham

Slap bang in Rotherham. Sheffield City Council objected to it for crying out loud!

[Brin]

Eyup Brinster. About a month ago mate. For some boxing. I don't doubt it needs more tlc. That said it is meant to reflect what it once was - a steel mill. I must declare an interest in that my dad was a steelworker for almost 50 years and anything which nods to our industrial past is good with me. I'm proud of our heritage. I'll tell you pal, if ever the SteelMan gets built over-looking the M1 you can get ready if/when they start referring to that as Sheffield!! ��

Sheffield has cleverly and craftily got itself the name "steel city" when, in fact, what it was (and rightly should be) famous for was stainless steel. Specifically cutlery.

Rotherham was built on coal, iron and steel. And our steel production was once the envy of the world. But we don't jump up and down shouting like the Dee Dahs so nobody from elsewhere knows. Even now our precision engineering is right up there. Sadly we can no longer mass produce in comparison to the Indians and Chinese due to cost.

My late Father-In-Law also worked there for over 30+ years a roll turner so, we too have a family connection to the place like yourself. Like you've pointed out, isn't it a sad state of affairs that we now ship our waste metal to the likes of China and India only to buy it back from them. This has to go through stringent quality checks to be able to meet our UK standards but, we by it back at an inflated rate.

Do you think if the Government supported the steelworks as say a new British Steel, we could compete with both China and India or is it all down to unions, workers rights, health and safety and of course the expected wage for a skilled crafts person? We know all of these go out of the window or don't even exist in some work places in both China and India?

[millertop]

Here's a good idea, flatten the Magna centre. It's an ugly dinosaur of a building and a bottomless money draining pit always wanting hand outs to keep it going.

That’s the problem for me, hand out after handout.


If they can’t make it pay then yes get it flattened

[millertop]

Been calling it Rotherham all morning Topsy so they'll do for me. 👍

All’s good then

[Lasterman]

Here you go. Waverley site is in Rotherham:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...715939824&z=11

[Grumpy King of the West]

My late Father-In-Law also worked there for over 30+ years a roll turner so, we too have a family connection to the place like yourself. Like you've pointed out, isn't it a sad state of affairs that we now ship our waste metal to the likes of China and India only to buy it back from them. This has to go through stringent quality checks to be able to meet our UK standards but, we by it back at an inflated rate.

Do you think if the Government supported the steelworks as say a new British Steel, we could compete with both China and India or is it all down to unions, workers rights, health and safety and of course the expected wage for a skilled crafts person? We know all of these go out of the window or don't even exist in some work places in both China and India?

Even the Yanks can't compete with mass production so we've no chance Brin - for the reasons you've outlined. Where we differ from the US is that they'll protect their product via tariffs. We're a more "free market" and "stuff where it comes from" attitude. Very short-sighted. Although I note that we, the taxpayer, have recently bought a controlling interest in Sheffield Forge Masters for "national security" reasons. I think it's something to do with our submarine manufacturing. So I support that.

[Brin]

Even the Yanks can't compete with mass production so we've no chance Brin - for the reasons you've outlined. Where we differ from the US is that they'll protect their product via tariffs. We're a more "free market" and "stuff where it comes from" attitude. Very short-sighted. Although I note that we, the taxpayer, have recently bought a controlling interest in Sheffield Forge Masters for "national security" reasons. I think it's something to do with our submarine manufacturing. So I support that.

And our nuclear weapons grade steel material 🥲

[thaimillerfan]

What about our own football arena New york stadium just because fire hydrants were made on the site that are used in New York Rotherham is remembered for Asian *** offenders pity.

[Archiemiller]

Sheffield.....they nicked our " greasy chip butty" song in the late 70s (FACT) and got away with it and its just snowballed ever since.

[flourbasher]

What about our own football arena New york stadium just because fire hydrants were made on the site that are used in New York Rotherham is remembered for Asian *** offenders pity.

Yes but the NYS is also in the NY area of Rotherham so other reasons too

Agree with the last bit though and it will be with us for generations