Conceding goals - who’s to blame ?

[kritichris]

Nick's a good shot stopper but he doesn't have Tom's commanding ability which led to him being captain. I think Heaton's been our best goalie while I've watched Burnley, shame about his injury. Pope should become an excellent keeper with more coaching and experience.

[sinkov]

Nick's a good shot stopper but he doesn't have Tom's commanding ability which led to him being captain. I think Heaton's been our best goalie while I've watched Burnley, shame about his injury. Pope should become an excellent keeper with more coaching and experience.

I also think Tom is the best Burnley keeper I've seen Chris, and the first time I saw Burnley Colin McDonald was in goal, which shows how highly I regard him. I have no problem with Nick though, I don't want to see him dropped or replaced or anything, he's a good keeper and I doubt very much we could replace him with better, he's as good as we need and as good as we're going to get.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I also think Tom is the best Burnley keeper I've seen Chris, and the first time I saw Burnley Colin McDonald was in goal, which shows how highly I regard him. I have no problem with Nick though, I don't want to see him dropped or replaced or anything, he's a good keeper and I doubt very much we could replace him with better, he's as good as we need and as good as we're going to get.

Adam Blacklaw for me, but we have been blessed with some great goalkeepers over the years that is for sure.

[army88]

Tom very rarely came off his line, it's my understanding that this was quite deliberate and worked on in training, Tom only came for balls he could collect easily, otherwise he let the defenders deal with it. You seem to be suggesting Army that this was a weakness, but I thought it worked perfectly, there was never any confusion in our defence, and we ended the 13/14 season, Tom's first, with the best defensive record in the league with just 37 goals conceded and only 5 defeats in 46 games. Tom kept 19 clean sheets, and let in just one goal in 19 others.

But I digress, I'm not trying to pick on Nick, like I've said before, I don't think we have a defensive problem, we're fine imo, but if you are going to claim our defence is not functioning as well as it used to, I just find it perverse that every man and his dog is getting the blame, except the goalkeeper. If any defence is not functioning properly the first position to scrutinise is surely goalkeeper. I do get the impression that Nick is a blue-eyed boy with many of our fans, somehow above criticism, but he shouldn't be, that's all I'm saying.

No ones above criticism Sinkov keeper upwards when i started the thread it was because a few were starting to have a go at our centre backs and full backs and personally I thought that what was in front of them was letting two many runners through straight onto our back 4 and keeper.

You could analyse it forever but I feel that the centre backs were younger models fitter etc and the midfield was more compact to
Protect them and in turn the keeper.

As for Tom I’m a fan like you but every time the opposition delivered a ball in open play or set piece my heart was in my mouth as he didn’t claim the ball or clean out players.

From my my own personal experience a goalkeeper behind you who comes and takes ball when it’s getting fizzed in is worth more than weight in gold.

Both imo anyway great keepers - popes weakness is distribution , Tom’s was command of his area on crosses - you can’t have everything I suppose.

[sinkov]

Two things helped with Tom for me army, I saw him on't Turf for Bristol City the season before he signed for us and he played us on his own, it was one of the best goalkeeping displays I've ever seen, I was thinking I wish we had a keeper like that, and I couldn't believe our luck when Sean went and signed him for us. The other was he replaced Lee Grant, who was as dodgy a keeper as you could wish to see, I was well happy to see the back of him.

[outwoodclaret]

Two things helped with Tom for me army, I saw him on't Turf for Bristol City the season before he signed for us and he played us on his own, it was one of the best goalkeeping displays I've ever seen, I was thinking I wish we had a keeper like that, and I couldn't believe our luck when Sean went and signed him for us. The other was he replaced Lee Grant, who was as dodgy a keeper as you could wish to see, I was well happy to see the back of him.

I remember that game sinkov. It was April 2013 and Burnley won 3-1 but we could and should have had 6 or 7 but for Heaton. Brizzle were on their way to relegation and had offered Tom a new contract. He turned it down and opted to move to Burnley. What a signing that was!

[army88]

Two things helped with Tom for me army, I saw him on't Turf for Bristol City the season before he signed for us and he played us on his own, it was one of the best goalkeeping displays I've ever seen, I was thinking I wish we had a keeper like that, and I couldn't believe our luck when Sean went and signed him for us. The other was he replaced Lee Grant, who was as dodgy a keeper as you could wish to see, I was well happy to see the back of him.

As good as I’ve seen Sinkov at the turf and Stephenson was good was Walker the Scottish lad who’s dad made shortbread ( millionaire) before he came, this lad was an exceptional keeper , I think he went home to run the company.
Should really mention me old mate Paul Crichton really played for Yorkshire at youth level with him ( won’t remember me now).

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I remember that game sinkov. It was April 2013 and Burnley won 3-1 but we could and should have had 6 or 7 but for Heaton. Brizzle were on their way to relegation and had offered Tom a new contract. He turned it down and opted to move to Burnley. What a signing that was!

Not arguing with you my mate but I'm sure that game finished 4-1. I'll check up later.

The lass in front of me kept on saying she had never seen a better pair of Men's Buttocks than Toms!

[Supersub6]

Not arguing with you my mate but I'm sure that game finished 4-1. I'll check up later.

The lass in front of me kept on saying she had never seen a better pair of Men's Buttocks than Toms!

BT --it was definitely 3-1. Albert Adomah scored for them in the 35th minute and we were losing at half time. Jason Shackell (52), Chris McCann (61) and Martin Paterson (90) saw us through to victory.