The new Covid variant

[baggiematt]

90 per cent anti bodies - PCR tests equal thousands of false positives - Sweden always a case in point - Face masks Don't effing work. Our healthcare system is always creaking in winter. As someone else as repeatedly said on here why is there no extra capacity in hospitals to deal with this? Face masks are always a form of control as its a reminder that there is supposedly a pandemic.

Scientists perform research around efficiencies of face masks, PCR tests etc. as they are trained to challenge reliability of such studies which you and I couldn’t possibly understand.

You finding things on Google that match your beliefs is just confirmation bias.

And what do you know of managing capacity and the supply/demand of respiratory consultants, microbiologists, nurses etc.? Gotta love a “just make extra capacity” remark.

[westcountryvillain]

I follow Maajid Nawaz on Twitter and he shares a lot of interesting information on this, some might call it propaganda and others might say he is providing a public service. The latest is Facebook fact-checking a consultant cardiologist, the 8 minute clip of a conversation between him & Nawaz on LBC is well worth a listen.

Phild I agree with your point on capacity, as you say every single year there are headlines around winter pressures so by now the system should be more resilient to that.

Govt. is right to be cautious until we know if the new variant is susceptible to the vaccines and more is known as to the severity of symptoms.

[boingy]

Well I will continue to take the advice, wear a mask as I always do when in shops etc, get my jabs because I've seen what it can do to even fit younger people. Not worth being obtuse.

[baggiematt]

Phild I agree with your point on capacity, as you say every single year there are headlines around winter pressures so by now the system should be more resilient

So surely a normal difficult winter, a cancer backlog and a respiratory disease that may or may not cause a serious increase in hospital admissions would lead to an unplannable challenge on services, no? How far can it possibly stretch before it falls down?

[baggieal]

Well I will continue to take the advice, wear a mask as I always do when in shops etc, get my jabs because I've seen what it can do to even fit younger people. Not worth being obtuse.

Me too but everyone to their own! More bothered about Santa having a boyfriend and pure stupidity in rainbow laces than those who choose to do what they want to do with vaccinations especially when those who are jabbed can pass it on as much as those who are not jabbed

[WBA1955]

When all this kicked off almost two years ago, Boris was rushed to hospital and we were told it was touch and go for a few days.
A few months later people who worked in the intensive care unit where he was admitted, said that he was never in danger, only had a mild form and was taken into intensive care as a precaution.
At a question and answers meeting when he came out he answered almost all questions thrown at him except one. Are the pharmaceutical contracts being handed out to party members. He didn't answer and looked at the floor.Things like that never go under my radar and I start asking questions.
I know that if we have another lockdown many small businesses will close for good to be probably taken over by large consortiums.
The GP's still haven't been seen, I can only speak to mine online, I can't even get them on the phone now.
The next time we see a GP we will have to pay, the first step to privatisation, this will be followed by all NHS, it's been in the offing for years. Your life expectancy will depend on how much money you have, like it was about seventy years ago.
I also predict a cashless society when they will know exactly how much money you have, how much you spend, and what you spend it on.
Covid is real, but it's been a godsend for a dictatorship government.

[regis80]

When all this kicked off almost two years ago, Boris was rushed to hospital and we were told it was touch and go for a few days.
A few months later people who worked in the intensive care unit where he was admitted, said that he was never in danger, only had a mild form and was taken into intensive care as a precaution.
At a question and answers meeting when he came out he answered almost all questions thrown at him except one. Are the pharmaceutical contracts being handed out to party members. He didn't answer and looked at the floor.Things like that never go under my radar and I start asking questions.
I know that if we have another lockdown many small businesses will close for good to be probably taken over by large consortiums.
The GP's still haven't been seen, I can only speak to mine online, I can't even get them on the phone now.
The next time we see a GP we will have to pay, the first step to privatisation, this will be followed by all NHS, it's been in the offing for years. Your life expectancy will depend on how much money you have, like it was about seventy years ago.
I also predict a cashless society when they will know exactly how much money you have, how much you spend, and what you spend it on.
Covid is real, but it's been a godsend for a dictatorship government.

This is the thing and i’m shocked by how gullible people are becoming. It’s so easy to say follow the science but who ever checks that and really verifies that? How do you then tell if that is actually being done? Just because someone says or news outlets report it. It only takes the stats data to trickle down from the top to then everyone to do what they need to do start enforcing the rules. I think we are being manipulated. I’ll always keep an open mind. Don’t trust any of what is going on. They are marketing the hell out of this new variant and nobody here bats an eyelid when it was always predicted. Yes I know I sound crazy. I’ve lost trust. This is tyranny if not something worse we’ve not seen.

[SwedishBaggie]

A basic course on democracy and the perusal of ”On Liberty” by John Stuart Mill would be a piece of good advice in these times.

[baggiematt]

This is the thing and i’m shocked by how gullible people are becoming. It’s so easy to say follow the science but who ever checks that and really verifies that? How do you then tell if that is actually being done? Just because someone says or news outlets report it. It only takes the stats data to trickle down from the top to then everyone to do what they need to do start enforcing the rules. I think we are being manipulated. I’ll always keep an open mind. Don’t trust any of what is going on. They are marketing the hell out of this new variant and nobody here bats an eyelid when it was always predicted. Yes I know I sound crazy. I’ve lost trust. This is tyranny if not something worse we’ve not seen.

I’m all for a good conspiracy theory but what you are suggesting is that all leaders, lead politicians and scientists have formed a Bond villain-esq coalition for unknown reasons (presumably wealth) and not one of them are going against it. Chris Whitty is the UK Blofelt. Van Tam is the UK Goldfinger.

It’s a little far fetched, don’t you think?

On a side note, I do think Boris’ stay in hospital was overblown or even fake. If you could think of a better way to get the public to take the pandemic seriously at that time, it was this.

[baggieal]

When all this kicked off almost two years ago, Boris was rushed to hospital and we were told it was touch and go for a few days.
A few months later people who worked in the intensive care unit where he was admitted, said that he was never in danger, only had a mild form and was taken into intensive care as a precaution.
At a question and answers meeting when he came out he answered almost all questions thrown at him except one. Are the pharmaceutical contracts being handed out to party members. He didn't answer and looked at the floor.Things like that never go under my radar and I start asking questions.
I know that if we have another lockdown many small businesses will close for good to be probably taken over by large consortiums.
The GP's still haven't been seen, I can only speak to mine online, I can't even get them on the phone now.
The next time we see a GP we will have to pay, the first step to privatisation, this will be followed by all NHS, it's been in the offing for years. Your life expectancy will depend on how much money you have, like it was about seventy years ago.
I also predict a cashless society when they will know exactly how much money you have, how much you spend, and what you spend it on.
Covid is real, but it's been a godsend for a dictatorship government.

Good post Des and so true! Why not go the other way rather than privatise the NHS - if you earn a high salary ie 100K plus a year then you can’t expect to use the NHS for free! Same with state pensions - if your income is that high then the presumption is you don’t need a state pension. Lottery winner of 15 million still gets his state pension - greedy c unt!

Harsh but those who are seriously minted escape every time. Council tax too should be a percentage of the value of your property/properties. So in Chelsea you won’t pay more than around 4000 per year council tax but many of the properties are 10 million plus! You can’t make it up!