Tory Christmas Party 🎉 🎈 🎊

[WBA123]

Labour are completely hamstrung by their need to satisfy their Union paymasters and their loony Left element whist satisfying the need to appeal to an electorate who are pretty much split between just to the right and just to the left of centre.

They’re also hamstrung by the fact they have a very strong “Pro Eu” set of MP’s and candidates and a lot of now “Blue Wall” seats to whom they’re scared of looking out of touch by being Eu positive.

There’s actually a very simple answer and I’ve stated it on here before, during and post Brexit.

Given the difficulty that Brexit has caused in many areas of both supply of goods and necessary workers it’s fair to assume that a vote on rejoining the Eu would probably now win by 60% to 40% in my opinion.

Labour need to do the following.

1/ Find a dynamic centrist young leader.

2/ Completely distance themselves from the Corbynista element even if it means issuing expulsions to members.

3/ Go for a “Rejoin The Eu” campaign at the next election and to not be scared of alienating the Blue Wall voters especially as they’ve lost most of those seats anyway.

4/ Have the courage of their convictions towards that agenda and to just left of centre politics.

5/ Hold their hands up, ask for a clean slate with the electorate and admit that they are pro Eu and should’ve stuck to those guns.

Labour’s problem for a long time is that they try to face too many ways at the same time, they need to go pro Eu and look to win seats in the south and south east and maybe even in Scotland which this strategy may see happen.

If they carry on like they are they’ll keep losing albeit very varying amounts each time.

Its rare that we politically agree, and here we are..

I do think Starmer's reshuffle was a small step in the right direction towards the centre ground.

[mickd1961]

Its rare that we politically agree, and here we are..

I do think Starmer's reshuffle was a small step in the right direction towards the centre ground.

Agreed 123.

The problem is the rabid Left though and I don't see how they'll ever rid themselves of this element.

I also think they need an untainted "Clean Skin" as leader and one with huge charisma, someone with star appeal ( like Blair had for a period ) and with no Brexit or Corbynista baggage.

It's likely that this person is not yet even a Labour MP.

[Leicesterbaggie]

No. He was referring to your final paragraph where you presumed everyone on the thread to that point was a Tory voter who'd be happy to take their wives back even if fkd by other men on a regular basis.

Paragraphs one and two weren't clearly defined hence Leicester's assumption that it was a two paragraph post, and your confusion as to which paragraph he was referring to. Happy to help �� .

Thanks '68, that's exactly what I meant.

[kettering_baggie]

No. He was referring to your final paragraph where you presumed everyone on the thread to that point was a Tory voter who'd be happy to take their wives back even if fkd by other men on a regular basis.

Paragraphs one and two weren't clearly defined hence Leicester's assumption that it was a two paragraph post, and your confusion as to which paragraph he was referring to. Happy to help 😊 .

You should be a mod on a certain other ‘Albion’ message board, which is managed by a bunch of ‘little Adolfs’!

[phild]

Well it does now appear that Boris's circus did indeed have a xmas party when the rules were no mixing/socialising for us ordinary plebs when old folk were not allowed to see loved ones whilst these troughers were having a jolly knees up with a secret Santa. None of em believe in these stupid rules they make up. PM questions in Parliament tomorrow ought to be lively.

[mickd1961]

It’s a pathetic shambles isn’t it?

The ineptitude of politicians and the ability to shout themselves in the feet is completely beyond me.

Then the lying on top just to compound it.

I like Boris but he now needs to f u c k off because he’s just taking the p I s s now.

It needs a serious politician in charge of the Tories now.

[phild]

It’s a pathetic shambles isn’t it?

The ineptitude of politicians and the ability to shout themselves in the feet is completely beyond me.

Then the lying on top just to compound it.

I like Boris but he now needs to f u c k off because he’s just taking the p I s s now.

It needs a serious politician in charge of the Tories now.

I'm honestly staggered by the lies of this Government its embarrassing. Like you I liked Boris but he really as shown himself to be utterly weak and ineffectual the p1ss taking is top draw with this lot - Churchill my ass.

[baggieal]

I'm honestly staggered by the lies of this Government its embarrassing. Like you I liked Boris but he really as shown himself to be utterly weak and ineffectual the p1ss taking is top draw with this lot - Churchill my ass.

At least Boris didn’t play bumper cars in the street like the hairband wearing ponce! Give the Clown a bit of credit!

[baggieal]

Who really gives a flying f uck about a Xmas party or whether Boris conceived his 15th child under the Xmas tree