There's still time

[Returnofrros]

Agree about Hibs. Maybe he might be strong enough to explain the changes many supporters consider are needed at our club and help Nelms to save himself and our club?

Well Nelms ain't gonna save it and McFAKE ain't gonna save it.

It's as dire as it's been since the Americans came in.

Stopping what looks like a probable relegation is just the starting point, we need someone whose gonna breathe new life into our club.

It's never a good time to be out the top tier but I'd say there's never been a worse time.

Thankfully I can't see it in the flesh just now (one of the few blessings of living in an authoritarian state) but I watched 70 mins on Tues, every aspect of the players body language, mcfakes body language and the still game bench body language told me "this is hopeless".

The players don't believe in him, majority of fans don't and I don't think his staff do

The most important man at the club isn't credible.

[BCram]

Well Nelms ain't gonna save it and McFAKE ain't gonna save it.

It's as dire as it's been since the Americans came in.

Stopping what looks like a probable relegation is just the starting point, we need someone whose gonna breathe new life into our club.

It's never a good time to be out the top tier but I'd say there's never been a worse time.

Thankfully I can't see it in the flesh just now (one of the few blessings of living in an authoritarian state) but I watched 70 mins on Tues, every aspect of the players body language, mcfakes body language and the still game bench body language told me "this is hopeless".

The players don't believe in him, majority of fans don't and I don't think his staff do

The most important man at the club isn't credible.

My experience of life is that stating a grievance rarely helps when you have a problem. Far better to put forward a proposal that might move the issue forward. I thought Jack Ross might be strong enough to explain how we need more leadership.

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My experience of life is that stating a grievance rarely helps when you have a problem. Far better to put forward a proposal that might move the issue forward. I thought Jack Ross might be strong enough to explain how we need more leadership.

Jack Ross knocked us back. I know enough about John Nelms to know that he will have taken that very personally and that the name of Jack Ross will have gone the way of every other person that's ever disagreed with John Nelms - it ill be struck from his memory forever.

Jack Ross will never be considered as long as John Nelms is picking our managers, no matter what he does or says.

[Returnofrros]

My experience of life is that stating a grievance rarely helps when you have a problem. Far better to put forward a proposal that might move the issue forward. I thought Jack Ross might be strong enough to explain how we need more leadership.

Nothing moves issues forward with Dundee.

Same issues every single year

See McGowan having his quarterly rant....****ing tiresome.

We have a ****e manager picked by a ****tier guy in charge, we have had opportunities to appoint good managers but for whatever reason we just **** it up.....well the recent reason is Nelms but it's an ongoing cycle of failure.

We are such a badly run club it's barely believable.

Sorry it dosent answer your question or expand the thread any but I'm pig sick of this utter dross served up and there seems to be more and more fans whose expectations are almost zero and accept this garbage or they just shrug and walk away....our standards are just fricking awful as a club and a fan base.

Nelms is BAD for DFC, McFAKE is BAD for DFC, together it's ****ing lethal.

[grantzer]

Nothing moves issues forward with Dundee.

Same issues every single year

See McGowan having his quarterly rant....****ing tiresome.

We have a ****e manager picked by a ****tier guy in charge, we have had opportunities to appoint good managers but for whatever reason we just **** it up.....well the recent reason is Nelms but it's an ongoing cycle of failure.

We are such a badly run club it's barely believable.

Sorry it dosent answer your question or expand the thread any but I'm pig sick of this utter dross served up and there seems to be more and more fans whose expectations are almost zero and accept this garbage or they just shrug and walk away....our standards are just fricking awful as a club and a fan base.

Nelms is BAD for DFC, McFAKE is BAD for DFC, together it's ****ing lethal.

If you had the chance to get shot of one of them, but only one,which would you go for?

[BCram]

Well Nelms ain't gonna save it and McFAKE ain't gonna save it.

It's as dire as it's been since the Americans came in.

Stopping what looks like a probable relegation is just the starting point, we need someone whose gonna breathe new life into our club.

It's never a good time to be out the top tier but I'd say there's never been a worse time.

Thankfully I can't see it in the flesh just now (one of the few blessings of living in an authoritarian state) but I watched 70 mins on Tues, every aspect of the players body language, mcfakes body language and the still game bench body language told me "this is hopeless".

The players don't believe in him, majority of fans don't and I don't think his staff do

The most important man at the club isn't credible.

Looked on the other Forum. Much more comment along the same lines as on here. Don't recall this happening often.

[Returnofrros]

If you had the chance to get shot of one of them, but only one,which would you go for?

Nelms as his replacement wud punt McFAKE.

[grantzer]

Nelms as his replacement wud punt McFAKE.

OK,reword it one goes the other must stay......

[Returnofrros]

Looked on the other Forum. Much more comment along the same lines as on here. Don't recall this happening often.

So did I until I read one post about nobody wins at livvy after going a goal down......the tony macaroni plastic cesspit is not welcome to hell Galatassary (Turkish mob) style.......standards have fallen further than I thought.

Welcome to the macaroni......don't go a goal down.👹

[Returnofrros]

OK,reword it one goes the other must stay......

Mcfake