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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I was shocked (!) to discover Boris did not even know his own rules. A work event is not a party even though there are trestles full of booze and cheese.

    We were out having dinner last night at the Ocean Palace in Darwen and I instigated a mass questionnaire on Covid.

    A few of the diners thought I was off my nut at first but once they got warmed up the responses were fantastic.

    Honestly, the inquest was brilliant. The owners are a pair of splendid young Chinese entrepreneurs and they suggested having a regular "Question Time" programme every Wednesday with me hosting it!

    In no particular order, the outstanding comments:
    "Boris is a lying tw@t".
    "Starmer is a useless tw@t".
    "Covid, what bloody Covid?"
    "They can shove their masks where the sun don't shine".
    "175,000 Covid deaths? Yeah right!"
    "I'm vaccinated, but I have still had Covid!"
    "Over my dead body are they vaccinating my kids".

    My favourite: "Why are the Germans, French and Italians still taking extreme measures, is it because they are still in the EU?"
    All about power and control, BT. The EU is about the power of the State, controlling people. People like Macron get off on controlling people, that their way is the only way and anyone who disagrees or does not toe the party line “va être emmerder”.

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    From the D M :

    ''Boris 'offered to ease restrictions for the Queen so more people could attend Prince Philip's funeral''

    ''Its not what you know ,its who you know!''


    ........but she said no because it 'wasn't fair' just seven days before raucous Downing Street party.

    Now if that was Fergie, wouldn't he have given Boris on the spot the hairdryer treatment?

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    Israeli experts question whether 4th vaccine could be too much of a good thing
    Professor of immunology at the Technion says 4th jab with the same vaccine and the same antigens can make it more difficult for body to respond to new variants, causing harm in the end.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/hj1jrsbtt

    Amid its fifth wave of infection, Israel has become the first country in the world to widely disseminate a fourth jab of the coronavirus vaccine. But some experts caution that administering vaccines too often could reduce the immune system’s ability to cope with future variants.

    Doron Melamed, a professor of immunology at the Technion – Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa, explained why too many doses of the vaccine could cause immune system fatigue. “When you’re exposed to a vaccine, during the immune response, the immune system generates very highly specialized and specific cells that are called memory cells. But at the same time, they maintain a flexible compartment of cells that can modify their specificity.”
    He pointed out that viruses constantly mutate and evolve; they don’t return year after year unchanged. “As with influenza, every year we see a different virus.” “It is very important that the flexible compartment be maintained,” Melamed said, because this provides the most efficient response to the virus as it mutates.

    When we immunize people for the fourth time with the same vaccine and the same antigens, he said, we strengthen the immune system’s highly specific cells at the expense of the flexible ones. This can lead to a situation in which it is much more difficult to respond to new variants; the immune system has become so highly specialized that it has lost its flexibility.

    Professor Melamed said that while this theory explaining immune system fatigue is not universally accepted, it is becoming increasingly popular among epidemiologists around the world who conclude that “highly repeated vaccination may be harmful in the end.”
    “There are vaccines that we get once in a lifetime, and there are vaccines that we need to get every five years,” the professor said. The appropriate schedule for the COVID-19 vaccine is “something that needs to be measured. The Israeli government is not taking into consideration any opinions given by immunologists. They are biased toward physicians and others who are not immunologists.”

    Professor Ronit Calderon-Margalit, an epidemiologist at Hadassah Medical Centre and a lecturer in the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, said that there is not yet enough information on whether the fourth shot will help stop the virus from spreading. “I think the decision to administer it was based on the success of the past shots from preventing the spread,” she said.

    “We earned some time – a few weeks – by closing the borders before omicron started spreading around,” she said, “and I think it would have been a good choice to use that time to conduct studies on the fourth shot.”
    Given that this shot has been already provided to certain citizens, she believes “it is the responsibility of the government to continue to observe those who received the fourth shot.”

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    Well guess what,I tested positive this morning ...Just when I was looking forward to going walking ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfinyalcabo View Post
    Well guess what,I tested positive this morning ...Just when I was looking forward to going walking ..
    I hope that you are not suffering too much with the symptoms, you must have felt rough to get tested!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersub6 View Post
    I hope that you are not suffering too much with the symptoms, you must have felt rough to get tested!
    My wife ,my son and his partner and their 2yr old son had all caught it,so it was never in doubt I think Ashy.Good news is nobody has is bad just a few sniffles sore throat and headache

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfinyalcabo View Post
    My wife ,my son and his partner and their 2yr old son had all caught it,so it was never in doubt I think Ashy.Good news is nobody has is bad just a few sniffles sore throat and headache
    Oh well, alf, just make sure that you don't get any worse than that!

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    Cheers Ashy,fingers crossed.

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