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  1. #1
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    MB

    I know its past half 2
    I know I’ve been drinking my sorrows away after a defeat.
    I know I might embarrass Belfast A.( don’t give a fk about that)
    But there is an elephant in the room.
    Has MB improved the team or has he only made it fitter.
    And when that fitness doesn’t play off, what do we have?
    Tactics? Dunno.
    Playing positions. No.
    Substitution decisions. Def no.
    I love the man as a person and I think we’ll survive only just.
    But there are too many buts.
    I really want to be wrong .
    This is not a drunken rant but a cry for help.

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    Not much to say to me he has no idea to others he is a god.
    The fact at his age he has won stuff all should be a sign in itself.

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    This squad was mid-table in the Championship.

    We are currently what 7 points with a game in hand above relegation zone after spending most of season with at least 7 first team players out injured, having to play with kids at times.

    Yesterday if we have Bamford on the pitch we win.

    On the 'he has won nothing' nonsense, that is because he takes on teams like us and tries to develop them. If he wanted I am sure he could leave us tomorrow and be offered a big job with a team with a stack of talent and he'd win a few cups and probably the league over a few years.

    Whilst I appreciate the idea he might be faltering a bit, I can't listen to it whilst we are doing ok in a tough league without most of our first team at various stages. My only big criticism is that I think he stops us from making signings because he perceives players values to be too high and he doesn't get with the times and realise that is what it takes these days, if he is unwilling to budge on that then harsh as it is he'd have to go cos this team even with them all fit isn't much better than 8th.

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    Love him but he leaves us all bewildered at times, I haven't felt this low or angry since "that" Wigan game, (that Derby one was on a completely different level), before yesterday I reckoned we needed 6 more wins to be safe, that would take us to 40 points, yesterday was a win, now I don't see where the next win will come from, the wins we've had have been so slender, my confidence in this lot has gone, I don't know any other team that flatters to deceive and who let's its fans down so much and on such a regular basis.

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    we are 4 points off the top half of the table, 7 points off the bottom 3, ok, not as good as last season, but staying up for me is good enough this year, keep building slowly, next season, the kids will be 1 year older too, seems to me thats where we are investing, so we have to trust in the plan.
    Its ok for WTF to play fantasy football, but we must understand, the game has moved on incredibly fast, we shop at ASDA, whilst its not poundland, its not marks&sparks either. Buying players in the 20-30M bracket is a gamble, sometimes it pays off, sometimes you get lemons. Reality is required. top 6 players cost 50-100M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asturianblanco View Post
    we are 4 points off the top half of the table, 7 points off the bottom 3, ok, not as good as last season, but staying up for me is good enough this year, keep building slowly, next season, the kids will be 1 year older too, seems to me thats where we are investing, so we have to trust in the plan.
    Its ok for WTF to play fantasy football, but we must understand, the game has moved on incredibly fast, we shop at ASDA, whilst its not poundland, its not marks&sparks either. Buying players in the 20-30M bracket is a gamble, sometimes it pays off, sometimes you get lemons. Reality is required. top 6 players cost 50-100M.
    Agree.

    I'll just add;
    Movement of significant sums of money between countries, from one currency into another, there are also some hidden variables which can make a serious impact on the figures involved when contemplating transfers negotiations & terms of payment.

    Players from America or Europe, even merchandise sales in the Far East, any sponsorship deals in America/Europe, the money involved is always at the mercy of fluctuating exchange rates.

    So for Rad & co - quite a few issues managing club risk balanced with the right kind of hedging funds in place for sure.

    Anyone who is involved in moving large sums of money internationally should consider a complete 'health check’ when it comes to their approach to foreign exchange rates at the moment - January window not exactly 'massive' world wide is it regarding player movement.

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    But bear in mind we don’t pay all the money up front and for FFP if it is a four year contract we can amortise the transfer fee over the four years.

    We decided at the start of the season on an investment strategy to keep us up and lay the foundation for the coming years and we may want better but if we cement the foundations to stay in the PL for 5 to 10 years then Insuspext most of us will be happy with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asturianblanco View Post
    we are 4 points off the top half of the table, 7 points off the bottom 3, ok, not as good as last season, but staying up for me is good enough this year, keep building slowly, next season, the kids will be 1 year older too, seems to me thats where we are investing, so we have to trust in the plan.
    Its ok for WTF to play fantasy football, but we must understand, the game has moved on incredibly fast, we shop at ASDA, whilst its not poundland, its not marks&sparks either. Buying players in the 20-30M bracket is a gamble, sometimes it pays off, sometimes you get lemons. Reality is required. top 6 players cost 50-100M.


    Never miss an opportunity to have a dig huh?

    Not quite sure how you come to the conclusion I would like LUFC to indulge in anything other than sensible, cost-effective recruitment? Wasn't it you who jumped feet-first into proclaiming that The Clown, JKA and Rodrigo were all "good bits of business", whilst others (myself included) suggested they were nothing of the sort? Haven't seen any sign from you that you are prepared to admit you were wrong (unlike others, myself included, where Bielsa, Harrison and a couple of others are concerned), shame that.

    As for LUFC shopping at Asda (notwithstanding the "good bits of business", including a club record for the guy with no positional sense at all and a fat ar5e), I'm not disagreeing that we have to cut our cloth to suit our pocket, it's just that we don't! Instead we give enhanced contracts to two of the worst players ever to don the shirt, and continually play one who should never set foot on the pitch for Leeds again, and loan the other (who never will) out, madness!

    If the club had anything like a fit-for purpose scouting organisation, there have been plenty of players moving between Championship and PL and within the PL, who are far superior to the majority of what has been brought to ER, e.g.

    Lookman @ Leicester £8m, Ndidi, also Leicester (arrived for £6m, market value now £54m!!!), Damarai Gray, Everton, arrived in 2021 for £1.8m, mv now £19m, Andros Townsend, Everton, came on a FREE, market value now £6.3m, Benrhama, Spam, £20 (and I'd have him in our squad over Rodrigo ANY day), Cornet, also Everton just £13.5m and makes James look distinctly average, Trossard, Brighton, £15.3m, Maupay also Brighton, £18m, Toney, Brentford, £5m in 2020, market value now £29m (and with his scoring record, is it any wonder!!), and lastly, the lad from Fulham, Carvalho, market value £3.5m and similarly makes James look bang ordinary.

    All tried and tested in the PL and/or Championship, all "Asda-price" not Waitrose (or Fortnum & Mason if your Sch1tty, Chelski etc), all have moved clubs in the last 2 -3 years (apart from Carvalho I think), and we didn't even give them a sniff, because our scouting organisation doesn't exist in the UK.
    Last edited by WTF11; 23-01-2022 at 04:03 PM.

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    after many beers yesterday I look at it this way.

    1) if MB leaves now we are likely relegated. the chaos will overcome the talent we have. we are where we are at because of him.

    2) we play every game shorthanded when roberts comes on. Many teams can win 10 on 11. Not sure we are good enough to do that but it's how I'm trying to cope.

    3) if Phillips comes back this season and we aren't bottom 3 we should be OK. If not and roberts keeps playing we are likely relegated. we don't score much and he's good for 1 goal a game with his screwups.

  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyni View Post
    I know its past half 2
    I know I’ve been drinking my sorrows away after a defeat.
    I know I might embarrass Belfast A.( don’t give a fk about that)
    But there is an elephant in the room.
    Has MB improved the team or has he only made it fitter.
    And when that fitness doesn’t play off, what do we have?
    Tactics? Dunno.
    Playing positions. No.
    Substitution decisions. Def no.
    I love the man as a person and I think we’ll survive only just.
    But there are too many buts.
    I really want to be wrong .
    This is not a drunken rant but a cry for help.
    Embarrass me? WTF? Not WTF WTF on here.

    MB can't make silk purse....
    Club need to back him, but I can't actually be sure if he is seeking backing. Kinda feel he wants to do it on his own terms in his own stubborn way - without doing like most others (bringing in established players). It's business. Trying to do it on the cheap.

    Have to say, I am not enjoying this season. Gonna say I felt better fighting for promotion at top of Championship rather than scrambling at lower half of PL hoping to survive. However, I do not want to be in Championship. Just saying I felt better than I do at the minute - particularly this morning. Think how Billy feels. He's snapping out of a drunken coma realising he posted a thread.

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