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    Kibbutz

    BT Since there is a break before we see football again. Just a film to show how the kibbutz started in 1938,not stealing land , established near swamp land, desolate swamp and arid land. The values of Socialism, (the Israeli Kibbutz).




    About the Kibbutz
    More then 90 years ago the first Kibbutz (from the Hebrew word kvutza, meaning group), was established. It was a revolutionary idea of a voluntary society in which people live in accordance with a specific social contract, based on egalitarian and communal principles in a social and economic framework. The main characteristics of Kibbutz life were established in adherence to collectivism in property alongside a cooperative character in the spheres of education, culture and social life. With this came the understanding that the Kibbutz member is part of a unit that is larger then just his own family.

    The Kibbutz operates under the premise that all income generated by the Kibbutz and its members goes into a common pool. This income is used to run the Kibbutz, make investments, and guarantee mutual and reciprocal aid and responsibility between members. Kibbutz members receive the same budget (according to family size), regardless of their job or position. In terms of education, all children start equally and are given equal opportunity. The Kibbutz is governed by a system of direct participatory democracy, where the individual can directly influence issues and events in the community. In this mostly self sufficient community, the collective as well as the work ethic play a major role.

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    About the Kibbutz:

    There are Kibbutzim where the members receive differential salaries and pay for services, but in all the Kibbutzim which have chosen the differentiation model, the members are "insured" regarding the minimum income level.

    Having grown out of the pioneering era and way of thought of the early twentieth century, Kibbutz ideology was established and developed during the pre-state and early years of Israel’s statehood. During the initial years and for many years after, the Kibbutzim assumed prominent roles in almost every sphere of the developing country. Although encompassing only three percent of Israeli society, the Kibbutz has made a dramatic mark on Israeli production, culture and ideology. Today, the Kibbutz movement is undergoing a process of change. Some aspects that in the past were included in the public domain are now under the care and responsibility of each member and his or her family. Somewhat romanticized in the past, the Kibbutz of today has evolved dramatically and the focus of Kibbutz life on society has substantially diminished.

    The number of members on a Kibbutz can range from 100 to 1000. In older Kibbutzim members often include three and even four generations, comprising the founders and their successors, as well as members who have joined the Kibbutz over the years, including a significant number of new immigrants. Today there are approximately 250 Kibbutzim in the country, where about 125 000 people live. The majority of Kibbutzim are secular, but there are about twenty religious Kibbutzim, as well as Kibbutzim connected to both the Conservative and Reform streams.

    The different characters of Kibbutzim are dictated by their historical origins, the ages of members and the general social and financial success and security of the Kibbutz. They are located throughout the country and vary in size, location, climate, agriculture, types of industry, population, ideological or religious persuasion and general character. In addition, issues of privatization and the extent of the continuation of communal life are factors influencing the style and development of most Kibbutzim today. Some have more or less solved the issue while others are still engaged in heated discussions as to their character and the character of Kibbutz life as it has been known for most of the last century. It is clear that much will be preserved, but at the same time generations have been raised and lessons learnt that will shed light on the continued future of the Kibbutz lifestyle.

    Part of the ideology of Kibbutzim has always been the good of the collective and a strong involvement and ideological belief in the social issues and agenda of the country. An extension of these beliefs has led to an ongoing involvement with new immigrants over the years, from developing programs and assisting in providing accommodation to opening their communities and homes. The Kibbutzim have been involved historically with Aliyah and continue to be interested in this important aspect of building the country.

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    About the Kibbutz:

    Raising Children
    Unlike former times when they lived in communal children's houses, children in the majority of kibbutzim today sleep at their parents' home until they reach high school age. However, most of their waking hours are still spent with their peers in facilities adapted specifically for each age group. At the same time, parents are becoming increasingly involved in their children's activities, and the family unit is gaining more importance in the structure of the kibbutz community. Thus the granddaughters of women who 75 years ago insisted on being released from domestic chores are now the leading force within the kibbutz for more parental involvement in the upbringing of young children and for allocating women more time at home with their families.

    Children grow up knowing the value and importance of work and that everyone must do their share. From kindergarten, the educational system emphasizes cooperation in daily life and, from the early school grades, youngsters are assigned duties and take decisions with regard to their peer group. Young children perform regular age-appropriate tasks, older children assume certain jobs in the kibbutz and, at high school level, they devote one full day each week to work in a branch of the kibbutz economy.

    Elementary schools are usually on the kibbutz premises, while older children attend a regional kibbutz high school serving several area kibbutzim, in order to experience a broader range of academic subjects and social contacts. At all age levels, accommodations are available for youngsters with special talents or needs.

    Some 40 percent of all kibbutz children return to settle on their kibbutz after army service. The majority of kibbutz members today grew up in the kibbutz and decided to build their life there.

    Meeting Individual Needs
    Based on the voluntary participation of its members, the kibbutz is a communal society which assumes responsibility for its members' needs throughout their lives. It is a society that strives to allow individuals to develop to their fullest potential, while demanding responsibility and commitment from each person to contribute to the welfare of the community. For some, the feelings of security and satisfaction engendered by belonging to a small, closed community are among the advantages of kibbutz living, while others might find communal life very confining.

    At first kibbutz society as a whole took precedence over the family unit. In time, this priority shifted, as the community became increasingly family-centred. Today, in the context of a normal society of grandparents, mothers and fathers, aunts and uncles, sons and daughters, the kibbutz still offers a level of cooperation which provides a social framework and personal economic security.

    Compared to the past, kibbutzim today offer their members a much wider range of individual choices. Members have more latitude in all aspects of their lives, from the selection of clothing and home furnishings to where and how to spend their vacations. More opportunities are available to participate in higher education, and the special needs of artists and writers are recognized, with time given them to pursue their own projects. Although no money actually changes hands, members allot themselves a predetermined amount of credit each year to spend as they wish.

    Looking to the Future
    The kibbutz is a social and economic achievement that grew out of a pioneering society, prospered along with a rapidly expanding economy and distinguished itself with its contribution to the establishment and development of the state.

    Today's kibbutz is the accomplishment of three generations. The founders, motivated by strong convictions and a distinct ideology, forged a society with a unique communal way of life. Their children, born into the kibbutz framework, worked hard to consolidate its economic, social and administrative structures. The present generation, which grew up in an established and prosperous society, is applying its energies and talents to meet the challenges of modern life in the technological age.

    Some fear that by adjusting to changing circumstances, the kibbutz is abandoning many of its original principles; others believe that this ability to adapt and compromise is the key to its survival. Whatever lies ahead, as long as the kibbutz maintains its democratic nature, and the spirit of voluntarism, commitment and idealism continues to motivate its members, it will have creative and compelling resources with which to meet the demands of the future.

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    I get the utopian kibbutzim idea Balan, but I abhor how you Israelis treat the Palestinian kids...

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    Here we go again.

    But BT what is this your photo ,which you show .What part is damaging ?

    That the Border guard is looking at the camera ? Or the way the guard holds his rifle? Not even looking at the kid, but at the 'Media ?

    But how is it that parents have let their child go outside alone? Maybe they have no fear of Israelis and Border guards?

    If the child had been scared of Border guards you would see it


    Why has the child stopped walking? Because of the 'paparazzi' wanting a photo of some sensational news item?

    BT your to quick to post without a meaning or a story with respect to the photograph.

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    BT - You can't go there anyway.Questions would be raised when they saw the Porsche.

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    Very interesting Balan,appreciate whole the work you have done to inform us. Cheers.

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    All...👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Here we go again.

    But BT what is this your photo ,which you show .What part is damaging ?

    That the Border guard is looking at the camera ? Or the way the guard holds his rifle? Not even looking at the kid, but at the 'Media ?

    But how is it that parents have let their child go outside alone? Maybe they have no fear of Israelis and Border guards?

    If the child had been scared of Border guards you would see it


    Why has the child stopped walking? Because of the 'paparazzi' wanting a photo of some sensational news item?

    BT your to quick to post without a meaning or a story with respect to the photograph.
    I thought Blackburn was a $hithole Balan, but even that lot don't patrol the streets dressed to kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    BT Since there is a break before we see football again. Just a film to show how the kibbutz started in 1938,not stealing land , established near swamp land, desolate swamp and arid land. The values of Socialism, (the Israeli Kibbutz).




    About the Kibbutz
    More then 90 years ago the first Kibbutz (from the Hebrew word kvutza, meaning group), was established. It was a revolutionary idea of a voluntary society in which people live in accordance with a specific social contract, based on egalitarian and communal principles in a social and economic framework. The main characteristics of Kibbutz life were established in adherence to collectivism in property alongside a cooperative character in the spheres of education, culture and social life. With this came the understanding that the Kibbutz member is part of a unit that is larger then just his own family.

    The Kibbutz operates under the premise that all income generated by the Kibbutz and its members goes into a common pool. This income is used to run the Kibbutz, make investments, and guarantee mutual and reciprocal aid and responsibility between members. Kibbutz members receive the same budget (according to family size), regardless of their job or position. In terms of education, all children start equally and are given equal opportunity. The Kibbutz is governed by a system of direct participatory democracy, where the individual can directly influence issues and events in the community. In this mostly self sufficient community, the collective as well as the work ethic play a major role.
    This would be around the same time your lot were massacring Arabs Balan?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

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