Russia & Putin

[baggieal]

The whole Ukraine news story is a false flag.......nothing to see there.......oh but wait......with the pandemic easing....governments have to quickly cover the next "lets be fearful of this"
Putin is not the worse leader out there....not by a long shot.....bet arms industry is delighted with all this talk of war....

Bet he’s loving all this attention and reminds me of the song:

Come and have a go if you think your hard enough😭

[regis80]

The whole Ukraine news story is a false flag.......nothing to see there.......oh but wait......with the pandemic easing....governments have to quickly cover the next "lets be fearful of this"
Putin is not the worse leader out there....not by a long shot.....bet arms industry is delighted with all this talk of war....

I’ve been wondering for a while what’s all this Russia talk going on, I just don’t buy any of it. But as you describe the false flag it makes more sense. Just as covid ends and out of news another props up. Glad i’m not alone in thinking they way in which this world works.

[WBA1955]

For me, this is history repeating itself. Germany was rudderless after WW1 much the same as Russia after the Berlin wall. A despotic leader came to power on the back of this, and the west didn't try and engage with them from the start. We have had a series of aggressive actions by Russia, including Salisbury, with no united actions from NATO. Now we have a procession of Western leaders beating a path the Putins door for an audience. He's loving it. Ukraine is Putins Annexation of Sudetenland. We do nothing at our peril

The similarity is chilling. Putin also uses the excuse of pro russian sympathisers in Ukraine and he will probably stage a mock attack against Russia as an excuse to invade. History repeating itself.

[WBA1955]

The man is pure evil and has waited for this opportunity for years! Wouldn’t be surprised if they invade Ukraine and move on to former bloc countries! China meanwhile will then take Taiwan! Who or what can stop them?

These were my predictions for 2022, along with the side effects of the vaccines becoming a long term issue denied by the pharmaceutical industry.

[mickd1961]

My prediction for 2022 is also spot on.

These piles keep coming back!!

Oooo me grapes 🍇

[Dubbag]

Steroidal suppositories....👍
Better then anything for easing grapes...

[Pugmitch]

Get them done when you have your knee op Mickd!

[Barrera]

Can’t believe the threat of sanctions is going to stop Putin. If we are serious about stopping him, the only threat he understands is “hard steel” and confrontation. He thinks the West is soft and can be rolled over easily .... maybe he’s right. Putin has been spoiling for a fight for years ... and the West has backed off. Anyone who seriously puts out information that Ukraine is about to attack the Donbas with 150,000 Russian troops on the border with all the military hardware installed obviously doesn’t care what the world thinks.

NATO should be massively ramping up its military capabilities in all countries bordering Russia - you can only negotiate with a dictator like Putin from a position of strength. It’s all he res-eats. Going in with the threat of sanctions is like going into a gun fight with knives.

[Omegstrat6]

The situation is now escalating quickly as Putin makes his address to the. country. Doubtless many Russians can see through his rhetoric but are powerless to do anything. The recognition of the two "independent" states will almost certainly be a pretext for invasion of the Ukraine now and this will really test the resolve of NATO countries, particularly Germany and France. Putin has been sabre rattling for decades and pushing the boundaries in this increasing game of chicken. No one really wants a war and the use of truly severe sanctions by the West could genuinely hurt Putin, but will they really be fully used?

Comparisons to Hitler and the Allied appeasement policy in 1939 are bound to be made. Maybe one solution might be to let these two states gain their independent status If the vast majority of their population wants it. The borders of Ukraine could then be re-drawn. The problem would then be whether Putin would accept that. In 1939 the majority of the Sudetenland were happy to become part of Germany again but, correctly sensing that the Allies would do little but protest, Hitler proceeded to invade the rest of Czechoslovakia.

Doubtless China will be watching with keen interest to see the West's response to this given its own aspirations over Taiwan and the South China Sea-although I have a feeling that the reactions of the US, Japan and Australia would be more robust in this region than we may see over the Ukraine. Worrying times still..

[DaveP67 is back!]

The situation is now escalating quickly as Putin makes his address to the. country. Doubtless many Russians can see through his rhetoric but are powerless to do anything. The recognition of the two "independent" states will almost certainly be a pretext for invasion of the Ukraine now and this will really test the resolve of NATO countries, particularly Germany and France. Putin has been sabre rattling for decades and pushing the boundaries in this increasing game of chicken. No one really wants a war and the use of truly severe sanctions by the West could genuinely hurt Putin, but will they really be fully used?

Comparisons to Hitler and the Allied appeasement policy in 1939 are bound to be made. Maybe one solution might be to let these two states gain their independent status If the vast majority of their population wants it. The borders of Ukraine could then be re-drawn. The problem would then be whether Putin would accept that. In 1939 the majority of the Sudetenland were happy to become part of Germany again but, correctly sensing that the Allies would do little but protest, Hitler proceeded to invade the rest of Czechoslovakia.

Doubtless China will be watching with keen interest to see the West's response to this given its own aspirations over Taiwan and the South China Sea-although I have a feeling that the reactions of the US, Japan and Australia would be more robust in this region than we may see over the Ukraine. Worrying times still..

Can’t see the cheese eating surrender monkeys doing much be up to us and the yanks again. Wish the world could learn from its history!