OT/ Optimitc noises from both sides..

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Certainly seems to be a brain drain beginning in Russia.......or people taking holidays at convenient times...
Reminds me of all those politicians who started leaving politics years ago....to "Spend more time with their family"
Remember that....all caught up in the usual scum culture of taking back handers and expenses....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60763494

[Dubbag]

From BBC........

Turkey's Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has said that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Russian leader Vladimir Putin could yet meet if the conditions to resolve the conflict are within reach.

Speaking alongside Çavuşoğlu at a joint news conference in the western city of Lviv, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said that they had agreed to focus their efforts on setting up a meeting between Putin and Zelensky.

"There is a possibility that the two leaders will meet if there is a ground for an agreement on the issues that we see as rapprochement,” Çavuşoğlu said. "We said yesterday that we would be happy to host."

"It is necessary to prepare the groundwork for a meeting at the level of leaders as soon as possible. We have already announced that we are ready to act as housekeeper for this," he added.

Kuleba told Çavuşoğlu that he hoped Turkey would be "among the countries" that could serve as a guarantor of any peace deal between the states.

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From BBC........

Turkey's Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has said that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Russian leader Vladimir Putin could yet meet if the conditions to resolve the conflict are within reach.

Speaking alongside Çavuşoğlu at a joint news conference in the western city of Lviv, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said that they had agreed to focus their efforts on setting up a meeting between Putin and Zelensky.

"There is a possibility that the two leaders will meet if there is a ground for an agreement on the issues that we see as rapprochement,” Çavuşoğlu said. "We said yesterday that we would be happy to host."

"It is necessary to prepare the groundwork for a meeting at the level of leaders as soon as possible. We have already announced that we are ready to act as housekeeper for this," he added.

Kuleba told Çavuşoğlu that he hoped Turkey would be "among the countries" that could serve as a guarantor of any peace deal between the states.

Pity if they met Zelensky could not smuggle in a gun and shoot Putin right in between the eyes and he would be a bigger hero.

As for Turkey - maybe they could let someone on Abromovich’s luxury liner docked up in one of their ports with an hand grenade and a Jerry can of petrol.

Karma!

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Zelensky himself seems more confident now of a possibility of some form of agreement to end the war. Can still see any assurances around Ukraine's sovereignty however involving both the disputed areas of Donestk and Luhansk being handed to Russia and the country not allowed to join NATO. This would allow Putin to claim some kind of victory and end the killing of more civilians and further destruction in Ukraine but surely Putin must pay for his actions? If he cannot personally be brought to trial for effective war crimes, at the very least Russia should have to pay heavy reparations for the havoc he as wreaked in the country. Until this is at least agreed, Western sanctions should remain in place. Hopefully, Putin's own position will become untenable if Russia wants to reintegrate itself into global trade. In any event, he has failed miserably in his aim regarding Russia's neighbouring NATO countries as these will certainly up their military capabilities now.

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Zelensky himself seems more confident now of a possibility of some form of agreement to end the war. Can still see any assurances around Ukraine's sovereignty however involving both the disputed areas of Donestk and Luhansk being handed to Russia and the country not allowed to join NATO. This would allow Putin to claim some kind of victory and end the killing of more civilians and further destruction in Ukraine but surely Putin must pay for his actions? If he cannot personally be brought to trial for effective war crimes, at the very least Russia should have to pay heavy reparations for the havoc he as wreaked in the country. Until this is at least agreed, Western sanctions should remain in place. Hopefully, Putin's own position will become untenable if Russia wants to reintegrate itself into global trade. In any event, he has failed miserably in his aim regarding Russia's neighbouring NATO countries as these will certainly up their military capabilities now.

All Russian sanctions should remain in place regardless - break their economy and cancel all import/export with them,

As for the CEO of Nestle Mark Schneider - your one greedy c unt for still conducting Nestle business with Russia. Obviously you don’t care about murdered woman or kids so why should anyone care if your family were struck down with a horrible illness.!! It’s called Karma!

[Dubbag]

It looks like somebody has decided to break with the Kremlin and report accurately.......this is most unusual...I remember something similar happening to Eric Honeker the last but one leader of East Germany. Papers started to crack little by little.....

Russian tabloid admits 9,861 troops have been killed - before quickly deleting story
In an extremely unusual admission, a pro-Russian tabloid newspaper has reported that 9,861 Russian soldiers have died in Ukraine.
The latest figure published by Russian officials was 498.
Russia has been accused of deliberately undercounting its losses so far in the conflict, reporting hundreds of soldiers killed while Ukraine claimed the number was actually in the thousands.

Kyiv says more than 15,000 Russian troops have been killed in total.
The story now appears to have been deleted - prompting some speculation about what happened.

That would be an awful lot of dead soldiers in under a month of the conflict....the mothers will be the first onto the streets if this gets out....

[Dubbag]

The cyber war is being upped by both sides......but it is an interesting development, none the less..
This been reported now by the BBC...


We reported earlier that our colleagues at BBC Russian had compiled a list of 557 confirmed Russian military deaths in the Ukraine invasion, mentioning that Russia's defence ministry has so far only once provided fatality figures - 498 deaths as of 2 March.

All that suddenly changed in the last few hours, or so it seemed...
The staunchly pro-Kremlin newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda (KP) published an article quoting the ministry as saying 9,861 Russian servicemen had died, a figure which exceeds even US intelligence estimates of Russian fatalities.

It gave the number of wounded as 16,153.
Minutes later, this part of the article disappeared from the page, but we were able to take screen grabs of the relevant paragraphs.
KP editor Vladimir Sungorkin subsequently told the BBC the information had been the result of a hack, and said the paper will post an explanation later.

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Talk about history repeating itself! This is like late 1989 all over again...with defection starting before the hemorrhage begins.
You can eventually expect to see Putin hiding in a drain soon.... ...

Putin adviser reportedly quits government and flees Russia
In a development that could be of particular significance, an adviser to Vladimir Putin has left the Russian government and fled the country, according to Reuters.

Anatoly Chubais, a veteran reformer and climate envoy, is said to be against the invasion of Ukraine, and has no intention of returning to Russia.
One of the few reformers from the early 1990s to have remained in Mr Putin's government, while still maintaining ties with the West, Mr Chubais would be the highest level official to have left Russia since the war began so far.

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Macron is a person I rarely read up on as he reminds me to much of the other one Trudeau of Canada, who are poor poor leaders in the modern age....
But distancing himself from the remarks of Biden yesterday was low.......in all honesty,could anyone sit down in the same room as Putin now?
Perhaps leader of China and leader of India could as they have not bothered with sanctions or anything strongly worded against the slaughter....
When it is wrote that the world has changed after the invasion.....that means the demarcation line is very clear now......on one side you have Russia, India and China and a few other smaller states and on the other side, approximately 3 billion people in those systems.....Western style openness.......over 4 billion people.......

The old saying..."If you are not for me you are against me"...applies here.......China and India are happy for the slaughter to continue....

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Macron is a person I rarely read up on as he reminds me to much of the other one Trudeau of Canada, who are poor poor leaders in the modern age....
But distancing himself from the remarks of Biden yesterday was low.......in all honesty,could anyone sit down in the same room as Putin now?
Perhaps leader of China and leader of India could as they have not bothered with sanctions or anything strongly worded against the slaughter....
When it is wrote that the world has changed after the invasion.....that means the demarcation line is very clear now......on one side you have Russia, India and China and a few other smaller states and on the other side, approximately 3 billion people in those systems.....Western style openness.......over 4 billion people.......

The old saying..."If you are not for me you are against me"...applies here.......China and India are happy for the slaughter to continue....

So true Dubs. Macron is a t wat and too many in NATO are selfishly looking at their own positions!

As for India, Israel and China - well there should not be a dime given in aid - no further help on any matters from the US and to pull away from these economies slowly.

The obvious strategy from Putin is to bomb the f uck out of the country and then split it in half so they take all the ports and a land corridor from Crimea. Absolutely shocking!

The West should NEVER unfreeze any sanctions otherwise who wins?