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    Public transport in our country, and in the wider UK, is nothing short of a fu cking scandal.
    People are FORCED into cars, particularly in more rural areas, by the paucity/cost/unreliability of public transport.
    That's before you factor in the general unpleasantness of the experience.

    Yet governments espouse a "green agenda"?

    Disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    Thatcher’s Bus Deregulation legislation from 1987 was promoted as a certain means of keeping fares low as competition meant choice for the traveller.

    Until Salmond’s pal (and Clause 2A bigot) Souter ran all competition off the road by scandalous business practices before hiking the fares as his monopoly allowed. It was a bit odd that The Party’s 2007 Holyrood manifesto committed it to re-regulation, which had mysteriously vanished from the 2012 version. Souter’s Party donations amounting to around £1.2m must just have been coincidental.

    Kevin will sort it all out though.
    Aye, the great deregulation of buses. Another one of the witches many great ideas that we only now see the real impact of her destruction, like so many other things.

    Private companies get to pick the services they run and no obligation to run non profitable services.

    Took the public service out of public service vehicles.

    Trains are even worse, you have to sell a kidney to afford train fares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InversneckieDob View Post
    Public transport in our country, and in the wider UK, is nothing short of a fu cking scandal.
    People are FORCED into cars, particularly in more rural areas, by the paucity/cost/unreliability of public transport.
    That's before you factor in the general unpleasantness of the experience.

    Yet governments espouse a "green agenda"?

    Disgrace.
    A massive cut coming to rural services in the next few weeks, as councils reign in spending.

    On a particular bad day of weather in December, Stagecoach cancelled their services outwith the city and left people stranded.
    Thankfully, one of these council subsidised routes saved the day (albeit an hour late) and I had to tell a lass, who didn't speak great English, to get on if she ever wanted to get to Aberdeen that night.
    The subsided routes have so much petty rules around them to ensure they don't impact the margins of the operators routes.
    The said bus above from December, had to drive past people waiting for buses in the city that night, as they are not allowed to take business away from First, as designated a subsidised country bus route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InversneckieDob View Post
    Public transport in our country, and in the wider UK, is nothing short of a fu cking scandal.
    People are FORCED into cars, particularly in more rural areas, by the paucity/cost/unreliability of public transport.
    That's before you factor in the general unpleasantness of the experience.

    Yet governments espouse a "green agenda"?

    Disgrace.
    It’s almost as if politicians think that a bus will run from Spinningdale to Kiltarlity every hour seven days a week due to the altruism of operators, and their burning motivation to serve the public rather than rack up the profits.

    I assume too that the green transport revolution will mean that the electric trucks, buses, and private cars that few can afford will take up no space at all on the road, and that that peer-reviewed evidence is the basis for governmental tardiness in dualling the A96, and A9.

    Maybe if we adopted a homophone (settle, donsdaft…) approach to the identity of one of their near-success projects, public transport would attract similar attention, funding and action.

    “Trains-agenda” has a familiar ring to it, and might see it move up the ”must do unless it’s affa hard, and we can always blame (here Rover, here boy) Westminster list.”

    The time the place and the mood is right
    And good old Kevin’s gonna be all right

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    homophone
    I heard about those.
    They had a right queer ringtone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donanddusted View Post
    I heard about those.
    They had a right queer ringtone.


    News that Covid’s covert agent Margaret Ferrier has fallen foul of the Parliamentary inquiry and may be suspended from the Commons. Like the lying former PM, possibly, this may result in a by-election in the Rutherglen area.

    Interesting times.

    Ferries? Ferrier? Don’t buy a Ferrari, Humza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    It’s almost as if politicians think that a bus will run from Spinningdale to Kiltarlity every hour seven days a week due to the altruism of operators, and their burning motivation to serve the public rather than rack up the profits.

    I assume too that the green transport revolution will mean that the electric trucks, buses, and private cars that few can afford will take up no space at all on the road, and that that peer-reviewed evidence is the basis for governmental tardiness in dualling the A96, and A9.

    Maybe if we adopted a homophone (settle, donsdaft…) approach to the identity of one of their near-success projects, public transport would attract similar attention, funding and action.

    “Trains-agenda” has a familiar ring to it, and might see it move up the ”must do unless it’s affa hard, and we can always blame (here Rover, here boy) Westminster list.”

    The time the place and the mood is right
    And good old Kevin’s gonna be all right
    Our government buy the green buses for the operators as they can't afford too, but still able to pay dividends to shareholders.

    It's a hell of a mess and sadly it a low priority as only minkers like myself have to rely on it.
    Not really a priority as doesn't impact most people.

    I worked for First many moons ago and that was a real eye opener and then they won the ScotRail franchise and that was a gravy train.

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    By all accounts they have produced a video with instructions on how to get on and off a bus.
    Apparently we have a generation that needs the comfort of a list of rules to follow before trying anything new.

    In our day it was just a case of timing it so you could jump on and off while it was still moving.
    That wouldn't go down well nowadays, they would be in tears just thinking about it.

    Of course, it's maybe the minkers like DeeDon that really put them off.

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    Young people famously run bus companies

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    The new free bussy generation that use the transport to go and pick fights in someone else's " territory " are helping the whole thing along nicely.

    Not that I'm blaming the youngsters here, at least they're not too fwitened to get on the bloody thing.

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