Must admit I liked the simplicity of the scheme but after 8 mths I thought wtf am I doing giving Nelms a tenner a mth.....think the taking of the knee tipped me over the edge (I know unconnected) and I just stopped.
I wouldn't say I was a fanatical fan but I have went from giving hundreds of pounds possibly 4 figs to Dee through admin and functions, season tic holder for 3 decades or so, 50% of away games, annoying the **** out of dabs at every opportunity to unable to hand over a tenner a month for the cause, non season ticket holder and no to fussed if a dabs within 6 foot of me.
I blame the yanks for this turnaround.
Always go back to what Deeranged and a few others who have been involved with Nelms have consistently said.....not to be trusted, won't listen, aloof, surrounds himself with yes men.......yet seems to have complete trust from a certain section of our support 🙄
Am I the only one who now avoids driving past Dens at all costs?
It's never been immaculate in all my time but **** me people who let the ground get in that state are supposed to be allowed free reign and total trust.
Would like to see Dee4Life and DSA and OLG trying to raise some money. It looks as though funding will be coming from sources other than FPS. Why should supporters be excluded as a possible source of funds. As Deeranged has pointed out if Dee4Life had started a Buy Back Dens Fund when FPS took over there could be a chunk of money possibly enough to pay for the purchase of Dens.
I know there are some of our fans who say that Dens is finished but I don't understand why paying a rent for a property that you could own is such a good idea, especially if there is an intrinsic value in the site.
Sadly the Dundee supporters including myself believed Nelms and Keyes when they stated after acquiring a majority shareholding in Dundee Football Club Limited that they would buy back Dens Park with the supporters fund raising to pay them back.
Sadly once the Yanks got their feet under the table they moved the goalposts. They were not interested in buying back Dens Park, nor did they want a fans buy back of Dens Park from Sandeman Properties Limited as they wanted Dundee supporters to put their spare money into Dundee FC.
Back in 2014 there was no requirement for the annual rent and the total rent payable to be stated in Companies annual accounts.
However that changed in June 2016 with the introduction of the new FRS 102 rules which stated that annual rental and the outstanding rental until the end of a lease had to be shown in a companies annual accounts.
This meant that the Directors of Dundee Football Club Limited had to state in their annual accounts how much rent they had paid in rent to Sandeman Properties Limited annually plus the total amount of outstanding rent until the end of the lease.
At a stroke this information is no longer hidden from view and it has been discussed at length in the various Dundee FC supporters forum.
Sadly there has been silence from John Nelms about the annual escalating rental paid by the club to Sandeman Properties Limited.
I enclose the minutes of the Dee4Life board of directors meeting held on 9th July 2020 with Item 2 Secretary’s Report being of particular interest. https://www.dee4life.com/files/15986...te09.07.20.pdf
You will read that the original plan for the 1893 Foundation was for it to be called Dundee FC Foundation operating the fund through the GoCardless account linked to a standalone page on the Dee4Life Trust website.
The minutes further state that agreement was being sought from the club which did not happen.
John Nelms kept the scheme for the club, it was renamed the 1893 Foundation and the club used the GoCardless scheme which the Dee4Life Trust had been using for members paying their annual membership fee since November 2017.