what advice would you give RMT unioin

[BCram]

bosses as they try to deal with the situation that they find their industry finds itself in? It seems to me that the commuter business model is under attack from the all sides, Greens, people whose employers are flirting with WFH strategies and the general pressure to save money caused by the Ukraine war that appears to have driven up energy and food prices.

[Deeranged]

I'd be telling them to be very careful. For the reasons you mention the industry might very easily decline over the next ten or so years, possibly sooner, and redundancies are very likely. I notice that a no compulsory redundancy for (I think) ten years is part of their requested deal - they aint getting that or certainly shouldn't.

Next I would tell them it's 2022, not the 1970s, and disruptive industrial action won't receive the level of support of the public now that it did then so again they need to be very careful, there are too many alternatives to their service that today's 'need it now' society will adapt to very quickly.

Next I'd tell them that all unions are run by selfish ****s and to give up their fight because ****s don't win.

[jdfc]

I’d say good luck and stick in there, we hear all the calls to cut down the carbon footprint yet they are forcing folk of the trains, when the fat cats stop taking over inflated wages/bonuses then they can have a look at normal hard working mens wages

[BCram]

I’d say good luck and stick in there, we hear all the calls to cut down the carbon footprint yet they are forcing folk of the trains, when the fat cats stop taking over inflated wages/bonuses then they can have a look at normal hard working mens wages

I think there is something in this comment. I don't know how the rail franchises work but the basic principle seems to be under threat. trying to draw any politician into the discussion needs to be carefully considered and strike action is such a broad weapon for sharing the misery that I think they need to be careful.

I would like to know if the union bosses believe that the "commuter based business plan" is actually on the way out. I saw a statistic that siad only 54% of the total work force in the country was back full time in their business premises. That's a massive drop in passenger numbers and no amouint of efficiency savings and cuts in executive pay or suspension of dividends would make even a start to balance the books. The bus companies seem to be suffering as well, so perhpas strike action is actually the very worst thing the RMT could do to try to restore the train business.

[Deeranged]

I’d say good luck and stick in there, we hear all the calls to cut down the carbon footprint yet they are forcing folk of the trains, when the fat cats stop taking over inflated wages/bonuses then they can have a look at normal hard working mens wages

Does that include the fat cats at the top of the unions?

[frankiekopel]

Does that include the fat cats at the top of the unions?

,the fat cat union boss is on 78k per year, the fat cat network rail boss is on 600k per year, don't think you can compare their saleries

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,the fat cat union boss is on 78k per year, the fat cat network rail boss is on 600k per year, don't think you can compare their saleries

Youi just did

[islaydarkblue]

,the fat cat union boss is on 78k per year, the fat cat network rail boss is on 600k per year, don't think you can compare their saleries

The rail network boss is responsible for a lot more staff than the union boss.
Out of interest the fat cat chief executive of the SPFL received an annual salary £389k which is listed in their annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2021 on the Companies House website despite the SPFL posting an annual loss of £15k

[frankiekopel]

Amazing what you can get paid for not being very good at your job

[islaydarkblue]

I’d say good luck and stick in there, we hear all the calls to cut down the carbon footprint yet they are forcing folk of the trains, when the fat cats stop taking over inflated wages/bonuses then they can have a look at normal hard working mens wages

The Union bosses are paid a lot more than their workers so it suits them to have as many members under their control paying their union dues to pay their union bosses salaries.